Sometimes these old posts are full of really great info, especially if it's about something not made for a long time. Ex.=my neighbor (a younger guy) asked me why they called the gun an underhammer. As he was holding the gun, I pointed to the hammer. He finally said "OH!!" Said he'd never heard of one before. Nice to have the old info around. He's never heard of Klein's Sporting Goods out of Chicago where you could buy a Carcano for $12.95, a Garand for $89.95, 1903 Springfields for $39.95 & on & on.