Anybody Know How To Turn A Tire Inside-Out?

[bohica2xo]

I suspect 40 years ago it was a damn bit easier to turn a tire inside out. Todays radial tires are much stronger.

Size matters a lot on something like this. It might be possible to turn an 1100-22 inside out, but I think trying the same trick on a 5.70x8 would be damn near impossible.

The OP's reason for wanting to do this puzzles me. I can buy clean poly open head drums locally for about 20 bucks. I simply store my stuff in regular old building space, but if I wanted dry outdoor storage I could move with a hand truck the poly barrel would be my first choice.

Old tires are just an all-around pain to me, and if you collect too many of them where I am at the county will be on your ass about it as well.

B.

[Linstrum]

Here's a quick pen and ink drawing I just made from memory that shows the approximate shape of the planters I saw as a kid. I think they looked prettty nice.

My 1972 Caterpillar D4D bulldozer has got right around 15,000 pounds drawbar pull according to the performance graph Cat supplied in the owners manual, and that's plenty to turn a tire inside out IF, and a BIG IF, I can get all that OOOMPH going in the right places, which I haven't been able to do yet with several logging chains, chain binders, two 16-foot long 4" x 8" 'I' beams, two 4-foot long 4" x 4" 'I' beams, and my 30-ton Guillotine log splitter all working in various combinations of pulling and twisting. The photo is my Caterpillar D4D dozer with me standing next to it, I'm 6' 2" tall, so you can see it isn't exactly a Struck backyard mini-dozer. I tore up a few tires with it trying to get them inside out, too!

As far as appearance goes, the turned inside out tires I saw when I was a kid would not attract negative attention at all, like I mentioned in a previous post way up above, they looked just like ancient Greek wine amphoras and like the ancient containers they were painted an earthenware reddish brown and you couldn't tell that they were made from tires unless you looked inside one with the potting soil far enough down to expose the tread and something like "GOODYEAR 7.75-15 MAX INFLATION PRESSURE 32 PSI" on the sidewalls. They stood up about two feet tall on their own because of the stress of the rubber wanting to turn them back right-side-out.

[Linstrum]

Yup, the poly drums, like the 35 and 60-gallon kinds that Roundup weed killer comes in, I used to get for free when I lived in Southern Cali-forlorn-ia in the Citrus Belt of Ventura County, but alas, here in New Mexico there aren't too many places around here that use weed killer in those amounts since weeds don't grow well in the gypsum that the White Sands of the Tularosa Basin are composed of. At $20 bucks a pop for containers, spending that would very quickly ruin paying for propane at $450 per month that this cold spell just yesterday afternoon took out of my lonely bank account (lonely for more $ to keep it company) and diesel fuel I need to survive; and worn out tires are, of course, FREE! I also think that a bunch of old, intact, right-side-out tires looks like one step removed from steaming heaps of horse apples and Obama's mindset, so if what I am after looked terrible I'd find another low cost alternative for exterior storage.


rl701

[scrapcan]

Linstrum,

I sent you a pm with contact info for a guy in my area that does this. he may be willing to help you but i have not talked to him personally about this.

[bohica2xo]

Linstrum:

There is no doubt you have enough force to do the job - you probably have enough to tear a tire in half.

Find a soft kid's toy with a tire on it. Start turning it inside out with your fingers. You will see immediately what you need. Or if you have one, a 20" or larger bicycle tire.

Do you have some big beam clamps / HD "C" clamps? Plenty of chain?

You need to pull the opposite side bead surface through the near side bead. On an angle. Without letting it get away from you & taking your head off...

Good luck & be safe.

B.

[Linstrum]

Hey, thanks, bohica2xo, a scooter tire of the same proportions as a car tire is probably what I have on hand.

That would be the pits after all these years of shooting to get my head taken off by a tire!


rl704

[bcp]

They make it sound easy. I can't understand it.
http://allgardenplanters.com/how-to/...den-wont-flat/

You’ll need to remove any leftover air from the tire. Next, you’ll need to turn the tire inside out. You can do this by planting your foot on the bottom and pulling at the top from the far side. Next, place your other foot on the tire and hold down the flattened edge at the bottom with this foot. Now, push the tire over and pull from the opposite side. If your tire is soft enough, it should turn inside out fairly easily. Believe it or not, that’s all it takes!


These are better looking than the usual ones. They seem to be seamed.
http://shop.theurbangarden.co.uk/rec...ly/107_0c.html
http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2...-tire-planter/

Bruce

[Bullshop Junior]

Do you want it on or off of the rim?

Note - If you can use 1-3 Ply tires. 10 ply are hard to do.

[Greentyre]

I would like to interest you in our work about tyreplanters. You can see our work on green-tyre.com, also on facebook and pinterest. Now as you can see we do a lot of tyreflipping and it is hard work. To make our job easier we invented a machine to do it.
The TYREFLIPPER™ Patent Pending.
This machine is very easy to operate and it can flip a tyre in 3 minutes. Any size tyre is possible, up to the back tyre of a tractor. You can get it in manual, air or hydraulic operation.
If you interested, just let me know.

[jmorris]

Your website doesn't work for me.

Any pics and details on the machine?

Loan it to my son and tell him NOT to turn it inside out!

This one is a good idea if he is still a teenager.

Good google foo green-tyre.

[Artful]

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cg...talk&th=592216




http://shoestringpavilion.blogspot.c...ck-plinth.html



http://www.ehow.com/how_7820702_turn-tractor-tires.html

Instructions

1 Stand your tractor tire up on end by lifting it up. It might help to lean the tire against a tree for better support. The idea is to keep the tire in a stand up position so that you can guide the head of the backhoe onto the top of it.

2 Study the use of your backhoe controls and practice the controls a bit. You will notice that you have the ability to move the backhoe up, down, left and right. Once you get used to using the backhoe, you will have an easier time to turn the tractor tire.

3 Control the backhoe so that you have positioned the head on top of the tractor tire. Push the tractor tire down with the controls and you will see the tire start to twist inside out. The backhoe head will apply tremendous pressure to the tire as you push down on it. The sidewalls of the tire will flex and buckle.

4 Continue to work your way around the tire with pressure from the head of the backhoe until the tire is inside out completely.

Tips & Warnings

You may need to work with the backhoe and the tire for a while depending on how flexible the tractor tire is. You can locate a small backhoe tractor at your local equipment rental yard. In some states you need to be licensed to use a large backhoe. You can find a small size backhoe tractor that you do not need a license to use. Check with your equipment rental yard on this. If you are unable to locate a backhoe for rent, then you can hire a backhoe operator to do this job for you. Just be prepared to pay a fee for an operator.

I'm liking this idea for raised bed gardening

[Linstrum]

Thanks for the video on inverting tires, that is the kind of stuff I'm looking for. That may even serve as a target of some sort besides growing potatoes!

rl 1,237

[DCM]

Loan it to my son and tell him NOT to turn it inside out!

LOL Sadly the same here.

[bedbugbilly]

Watched the video - interesting. I love it when a guy wears work gloves to protect his hands but wears sandals with no protection for his feet . . . wonder if he casts bullets that way to?

[jmorris]

The gloves are for the wire in radial tires. That is cheating though, flipping with the bead intact would be much harder.

[Pinsnscrews]

Back in the day, my stepdad would pound the bead on one side of a bias ply tire with a sledge to soften it up. Then they would mount it on a bead lock rim, only locking the side that wasn't soften. Chain up the softened bead, put the tractor in Low One, and let the tractor crawl forward until the tire was completely turned inside out. Can't remember how much he sold them for at the time, but I remember him doing about 10 or 15 in a day.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Seems like a lot of work. I showed my wife,,, She doesn't want any.

Randy

[johnson1942]

im glad some one else put some pictures on here with tractor tires as raised beds. i live rural and have more than i can count all filled with good dirt and compost. as i fill them i make a slurry out of the mixture with lots of water. it settles back in to every part of the tire. i plant every thing from carrots to fruit trees in them. good for raspberries and straw berries also. cucumbers and melons love tires. i have seen them turned inside out at a neighbors cattle feeding area but never thought tham better to plant in than a regular big tractor tire. i like the regular shaped tires because they hold moisture back in the hollow cavity better than if they were straight sided. my carrot crop was out of this world last year in a big old tractor tire.

[Plate plinker]

Seems like a lot of work. I showed my wife,,, She doesn't want any.

Randy

Good woman. Keep her around.

[TCLouis]

Western Tire Recycling in Utah is one company that makes water tanks/feed bunkers with old tires.

OTRs tire though, 6-13 feet in diameter.