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    your gonna size them and lube them again why bother standing them up
    I wasn't for the first lube. But after the size and re-lube i was, to get an even drying coat.

    I'm asking if this is nessassary, or not.
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    Well Done!!

    You put some time and effort into this and it paid off.
    I hope it winds up as a sticky!! Kudo's to you sir!!

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    i second the sticky idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lylejb View Post
    I wasn't for the first lube. But after the size and re-lube i was, to get an even drying coat.

    I'm asking if this is nessassary, or not.
    I've never found it to make one iota of difference.

    The reason I re-lube after sizing is threefold:

    1. My first (tumble) lube is light to begin with, and

    2. After sizing, the lube on the bands is often gone, so I want another coat on the bands, and

    3. The first (tumble) lubing put on a light coat of lube that makes it easy for the second (tumble) lubing to adhere to. This gives me a nice, even coating of lube with no excess.


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    Stickied.


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    It is post like this I love this site. I've just started making boolit for something other than my 50 cal smoke pole. 30 years of making round balls and maxi hunters and I find I still have a hugh learning curve. Learning things like this will make my ne hobby much more fun.


    ps will this work for rifle boolits for a 30-06 or a 7 mm or is something more needed haven't done any rifle boolits yet but it;s to much fun so far not to.

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    Boolit Lube

    Just made my first batch. Looks good. Thank you for the pictures and instructions.

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    I use tl boolits but I dont size them. Do you recommend lubing once with a heavier coat or twice with smaller coats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d_striker View Post
    I use tl boolits but I dont size them. Do you recommend lubing once with a heavier coat or twice with smaller coats?
    Two light coats.


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    Thumbs up

    Excellent post.
    I did try the LLA and did not like the stickiness. I will try this though.
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    Anyone know where to get JPW in Canada?

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    Johnsons paste wax is usually found at the supermarket but some harware stores carry paste wax also.Mel

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    I found and brought home my first can of JPW today and was going to do a search for a lube formula with it but then saw this sticky, perfect timing and excellent tutorial. Thanks

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    Are Buchshots pushthrew sizers for a press, or a star?

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    Bravo, good guide for us new to LLA newbness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recluse View Post
    I size every single boolit I cast. Always and without fail. The Lee sizing kits are inexpensive and incredibly simple, easy and fast to use. This is another area where I can absolutely control the consistency (size of the boolit), so why not do it?

    After I've sized the boolits, I dump them back in the Cool Whip tub, reheat the bottle of LLA/JPW/MS concoction and repeat the lubing process. After the boolits have dried, I either load them or store them.

    Good luck and enjoy.

    NOW THAT WAS WORTH THE READ! THANK YOU!

    I do have a question though Recluse -- I read you use Lee sizers, never tried one but I'm going to soon, but can you size these TL bullets in Lyman/RCBS sizer with the sizer dies I've already got or are Lee sizers the only ones that should be used? I'm probably being picky, when I was taught to cast a lot of years back my first mold was a TL .44 cal 230 grain Lee and the guy who taught me said never to size a TL design bullet. I shot a lot through the .44 I HAD but these bullets I've got now (RD 265 grain TLGC) are going through a .444 Marlin with ballard rifling.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazman1602 View Post
    I do have a question though Recluse -- I read you use Lee sizers, never tried one but I'm going to soon, but can you size these TL bullets in Lyman/RCBS sizer with the sizer dies I've already got or are Lee sizers the only ones that should be used? I'm probably being picky, when I was taught to cast a lot of years back my first mold was a TL .44 cal 230 grain Lee and the guy who taught me said never to size a TL design bullet. I shot a lot through the .44 I HAD but these bullets I've got now (RD 265 grain TLGC) are going through a .444 Marlin with ballard rifling.

    Thanks,

    Art
    Art,

    I like the Lee push through sizers for several reasons. One, and most importantly, is that they go through nose first. The only thing I use my thirty-caliber Lyman and RCBS sizing dies for is straight lube application. I seat the gas checks and size the boolits through a push-through sizer, then lube them in the lubesizer.

    Second thing I like about the push through sizers is they are fast.

    Can you size tumble-lubed boolits in Lyman or RCBS dies? I don't see why not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shootingstar View Post
    Are Buchshots pushthrew sizers for a press, or a star?
    I think Buckshot can make sizing dies for both, but the ones mentioned in this discussion are for a press.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Recluse View Post
    Art,

    I like the Lee push through sizers for several reasons. One, and most importantly, is that they go through nose first. The only thing I use my thirty-caliber Lyman and RCBS sizing dies for is straight lube application. I seat the gas checks and size the boolits through a push-through sizer, then lube them in the lubesizer.

    Second thing I like about the push through sizers is they are fast.

    Can you size tumble-lubed boolits in Lyman or RCBS dies? I don't see why not.

    Thanks man..........I'm finding out the fact here as I cast several dozen after making vent lines and smoothing out the cavities this afternoon. I think between you and what I did I got my answer and its the same old one ----- the only issue I can see is the same one I always run into with my Lee bullets and Lyman/RCBS sizers, nose punches. Soooo, seeing a nose punch that isn't going to fit and I'm going to have to use JB weld or epoxy to make it fit is around 8 bucks, and a Lee sizer is about 15 bucks, and it's FREAKIN 20 degrees out in the shop where my lathe is so I can't make one, I think I'll wait till I've got an extra fifteen bucks and try one of Lee's sizers.

    Lee's sizers are WAY superior to Lyman/RCBS simply because they go through NOSE first. I can't understand WHY someone hasn't come up with a Lyman/RCBS design that would eliminate the doggone PITA of nose punches and put them through nose first like they should be..............this is excepting STAR sizers of course but I don't have that kind of disposable cash right now or I'd have one..................

    Thanks for the speedy response.

    Art

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    Art, Bullshop pointed out a couple of years ago that you can remove the ejection pin and stroke stop hardware from a Lyman/ RCBS sizing die and lubrisizer and shove boolits through with a flat ended top punch, just like you would with a Star. It'd be real tricky to lube them in the process, but should work with with tumble or pan lubed. Puts a small flat on the tips of any real pointy boolits from shoving out the previous boolit, but not a big deal for most designs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HORNET View Post
    Art, Bullshop pointed out a couple of years ago that you can remove the ejection pin and stroke stop hardware from a Lyman/ RCBS sizing die and lubrisizer and shove boolits through with a flat ended top punch, just like you would with a Star. It'd be real tricky to lube them in the process, but should work with with tumble or pan lubed. Puts a small flat on the tips of any real pointy boolits from shoving out the previous boolit, but not a big deal for most designs.
    Hey Rick,

    Funny you should point that out. I had to wait six weeks for Lyman to get me some parts for my 450 I broke (MY fault....) and in the meanwhile got disgusted and bought an RCBS sizer so I've got an extra on to work with now. I was just downstairs plugging in the lube heater and looking at the extra sizer I've got now so I'll play with that a bit.

    Are you guys getting hammered in your part of the state? We've got winds about 30mph and whiteout conditions here.....and the plows haven't hit the backroads yet...................

    Thanks,

    Art

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