Hallo again guys.
-What kind of ACCURACY can you people achieve with PP ?!
-It's beyond me why the small differences in the papertwist-TAIL don't ruin accuracy for us..(?)
We all know the bullet-base is the final steering-end, as the bullet exits the barrel.
-Since the twisted tail-end is slightly different from bullet to bullet, this SHOULD play havoc with our accuracy, shouldn't it !?
Always learnin', Chr.
I'm assuming the tail gets mushed flat when the powder ignites. I cutting my patches so that there is about an inch handing off the end when the patch is rolled on. I twist the tail and then seat it. My theory is that the extra paper helps protect the base from the hot gases.
Some where between here and there.....
I twist my tails, and then size. When they are done, there is a paper cushion on the bottom of the casting rather than any hanging on stuff.
When the castings exit the muzzle, there is a rather pronounced fluff of confetti.
Accuracy?
Better than jacketed for the same load.
MOA +/-1/4 in general, this over a run of about 500 rounds. Did not achieve that standard until I quit twisting tail and went to folded theory with a card wad under. Compressed smokeless load, YMMV.
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I have always had better luck with twisted rather than folded. I require my paper patched bullets to shoot a least as good as jacketed with the same load in the same rifle.
45 AUTO! Because having to shoot someone twice is just silly!
I twist tails, then cut them off and flatten them. The patch bases are NEVER uniform, however. Doesn't seem to matter a bit, though, as I get accuracy of 1.5" or better at 100 yards, with my old Yugo M48 sporter (8 x 57 cartridge), with 4x scope. Really, the rifle and load will do better than 1.5"....but I CAN'T do better than that, with any consistency. I have gotten 1" or smaller groups, though....lots of times. I WON'T claim that I can shoot that well with any regularity, though. So, when asked, I just say that the rifle (and load) will "shoot as well as I can, or better".
No Tails here, a slight over hang and its folded flat and wet patching. Accuracy with a scoped Sharps is Sub MOA, Have the match results to prove it, Regional, National, 5@200. When You shoot against the likes of Doc Keith Lay, Michael Rix, Dan Theodore, Dave Gullo and can beat them even if its only at 800 yards the Last day of the Winter Nats at Phoenix.
I will never fold a tail ever again.
KW
The Lunger
accuracy
EXCEPT for the totally unexplained flier every so often.... maybe 1out of 50+.... PP accuracy in my Montana C Sharps 45-110 with flat bottomed, swaged bullets is .90-.95 @ 100. I shoot a globe front and tang aperture rear.
Since I've never twisted tails wouldn't know how to compare? I leave about 1/8" of bare base in the center after the overlap (wrap over of base edge). Easier to let dry/tighten sitting on the base on a paper plate/cardboard.
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For the 100 to 200 yard shooting that I do, twisting the tail and cutting off the pigtail is the way I have been loading. This technique gives good accuracy for my purposes. If I were competing, as Ken W. does, I would at least try his methods and likely switch to them.
As has been discussed here a thousand times before, folding the patches over to form a flat, even base is FAR, FAR easier with BIG bullets, such as .45's. It's quite another thing with small dia. bullets like 8mm or 30's, though.
Well then, shoot big bullets and don't look back!
I'll bet Mr. W. will recognize this photo. Any of the rest of you see the target?
Success is hard to argue.............
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How far away are those targets!? I can't even see them.
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Dang!
That is some shootin.
Look closely under the right end of the cloud shadow on the right. Just a wee smudge of white there.
I was told it was 63,360 inches.
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Dang dude.
My .303 wouldn't even make it that far!
Must feel just GREAT.
Beautiful country and remarkable shooting! Thanks for posting this!
Got one more here that really blows me away. Tell me what you don't see on the rifle in this picture. Think it might be the same shooter that is centered in the first picture, or at least the same bench.
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Daslunger don't got no scope on that riflegun.....
Long range rules, the rest drool.
Say it ain't true!
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