MidSouth Shooters SupplyLoad DataLee PrecisionInline Fabrication
Titan ReloadingSnyders JerkyWidenersRepackbox
RotoMetals2 Reloading Everything
Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Mystery alloy....What is this stuff.

  1. #1
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    60

    Mystery alloy....What is this stuff.

    Ordered some 99% pure lead.
    It didn't come from anyone here or any of the dealers advertised here.
    Somethings not right though.
    A 400 grain bullet I cast drops 12 grains lighter.
    A 262 grain bullet drops 6 grains lighter.
    Thats consistently.
    When I cut the sprue it breaks like it's brittle.
    I have very little trouble using pure lead with just a touch tin.
    In general this stuff does not cast well at all.
    I would think if it's more tin than I'm used to that fill out would be great.
    Thats not the case though.

    What do you think?

  2. #2
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    862
    Tin does not make lead brittle. If it casts reasonably - say about as well as pure lead - but has a lower density than lead and is brittle, a fairly likely explanation is that it contains a fair amount of antimony but little or no tin. If it casts abominably, there is a good chance it is zinc-contaminated. If that is the case, though, it should be obvious when it is molten in the pot - zinc-contaminated molten lead has a nasty sludge on top.

  3. #3
    Banned








    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    munising Michigan
    Posts
    17,725
    had some that casted and acted just like you are experncing and I ended up finding out it was pellets from a carnival shooting setup. I ended up giving it away.

  4. #4
    Boolit Master



    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Where Pennsylvania, Delaware, and Maryland join.
    Posts
    2,195
    Make fishing sinkers.

  5. #5
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    60
    Dang EvilBay advertisement.
    They need to change that add.

    These boolits stay shiny sitting on the bench way to long for pure lead.
    Frosting is one thing but if you let this stuff gets on the hot side the boolits have a multi color thing going on.
    Can't describe it but I'll try to get a picture.

  6. #6
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    972
    Zinced!

  7. #7
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    60
    Figured out how to describe the way they look.
    Galvanized!!!
    I would have blamed myself but I've covered every base.
    "actually I did blame myself at first".....but
    I can empty the pot and use pure lead without a hitch under the same circumstances.
    I thought I was losing my mind.

  8. #8
    Boolit Master
    lwknight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Fort Worth, Texas where the west begins
    Posts
    3,418
    Never trust Evil Bay with something like that unless the seller makes a convincing detailed story about how he got and made the ingots. And maybe not even then..
    Sent from my PC with a keyboard and camera on it with internet too.
    Melting Stuff is FUN!
    Shooting stuff is even funner

    L W Knight

  9. #9
    Boolit Master HORNET's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    South of Vandalia, Michigan
    Posts
    1,397
    Well, I guess you can figure out what the other 1% was....maybe a bit more than 1%. You might be able to salvage it if you work at it, or just cut it into a WW blend in small amounts. Maybe add a little lead-free solder. Lots of possibilities. IIRC, Docone (sp?) favors a small amount of zinc as a hardening agent for his paper-patching.
    Rick
    ____________________________
    If it looks plumbous, I'll probably try making bullets out of it. Dean Grennell

  10. #10
    Boolit Buddy arcticbreeze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Athens, TN
    Posts
    413
    After having a bad experience with about 80 lbs of contaminated lead I won't ever buy ingotized metal again. If you don't do it your self you just don't know.

  11. #11
    Boolit Master 243winxb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,844
    Knowing what moulds you have might help. Black powder, muzzle loading mould are regulated for weight using pure lead. Any other metals in the alloy will let a bullet drop lighter. Antimony will produce a larger diameter bullet.

  12. #12
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    60
    Lets see .....
    99% pure lead no known alloys added.

    You can pick some up any day of the week.
    The add never changes but the mix does.
    I'm guessing more than 1%.
    Beware ...I think you can figure it out.
    Despite the high customer rating.
    Thanks for verifying what I suspected.

  13. #13
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    60
    Boolit diameter is the same.
    The weight difference is based on known pure lead boolits out of the same mold.

  14. #14
    Boolit Master 243winxb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,844
    Quote Originally Posted by buckshot&brass View Post
    Boolit diameter is the same.
    The weight difference is based on known pure lead boolits out of the same mold.
    Then we can only guess what the metals might be. Many are lighter then pure lead as i am sure you know. Try maximum heat for better fill out. http://www.reade.com/Particle_Briefings/spec_gra.html

  15. #15
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    60
    Maxed the Lee pot out on high and the mold is clean and hot.
    If left on high long enough a hard crust forms it's the color of rusty iron.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check