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Thread: Lyman 450 Broke Part

  1. 05-04-2006, 10:31 PM #1
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    Lyman 450 Broke Part

    I was lubing and sizing some 6.5 boolits for my Swede tonight and everything was going fine when the die adjusting screw (the hollow threaded rod below the die) broke off below the lubrisizer body. There was no excessive pressure or force involved.

    I took a good look at it through a magnifiying glass and the blamed thing looks like pot metal or at least a casting of some type. Even the threads look too finished, almost like plastic. I checked it with a magnet and it is steel. Look at the pictures and see what you think.
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  2. 05-04-2006, 10:56 PM #2
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    I think you need to go to Lyman's site and order part #10!

    Seriously, Lyman is quick to respond and will probably just give you a new one....

    FWIW,

    Dennis

    BTW, that looks like it may have broke from "lock nut stress". Did it break flush at the locknut?

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  3. 05-05-2006, 09:44 AM #3
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    Lyman Quality Going Downhill??

    Dennis,

    Thanks for the info on the Lyman web site and parts listing.

    My real concern is the quality of the broken part. If you look

    at the photos close, you can see the plastic look of this rod.

    There are no machine marks and the quality of the material

    concerns and surprises me. I would expect better from Lyman.
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  4. 05-05-2006, 01:40 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by blslryr
    Dennis,

    Thanks for the info on the Lyman web site and parts listing.

    My real concern is the quality of the broken part. If you look

    at the photos close, you can see the plastic look of this rod.

    There are no machine marks and the quality of the material

    concerns and surprises me. I would expect better from Lyman.
    Hmmm....
    Don't know what to tell you. You've checked it with a magnet right?
    I know mine is steel and hasn't given any problems. I just barely snug up the locknut because the rod IS thin in the thread area and might be prone to stretching/failure I suppose....
    I'll bet if you send it to Lyman, you'll get a new one pronto...(and "gratis")


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  5. 05-05-2006, 06:02 PM #5
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    Adjusting rod

    I broke one by tightening too much. I made one by drilling a bolt in a lathe.
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  6. 05-05-2006, 09:30 PM #6
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    blslryr, if you don't have a lathe available to you, you can still make one with a drill press. Find a bolt with enough thread length to match the piece you're trying to reproduce. Hacksaw to length and grind or file as close to 90 degrees as possible. Now put this piece in the drill press chuck. In the drill press vice, clamp in a center drill if you have one, if not then use a short bit that is close to or a tad undersized to the finished hole. Make sure the drill is 90 degrees to the vice jaws. Now eyeball the bit from two sides to get as close to center as you can on the threaded piece. The bit should find the center if you were fairly close by eye. Start drilling by pulling down on the press lever and occasionally lifting the lever to clear the chips. Now use a bit of the appropriate diameter to finish the hole...Ray
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    Homemade Part

    Ray,

    I think I will try to make one while the replacement part is on the way. I have a drill press and bits. If I can find a bolt the right pitch and with a low grade hardness, I could secure it with a double nut and drill press vise.

    Sounds like a challenge!!
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  8. 05-06-2006, 10:47 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by blslryr
    Ray,

    I think I will try to make one while the replacement part is on the way. I have a drill press and bits. If I can find a bolt the right pitch and with a low grade hardness, I could secure it with a double nut and drill press vise.

    Sounds like a challenge!!
    Just FYI, if you use your gascheck seater tool, you'll need to have a locknut on the "bottom" of the adjuster only....
    (Although I realize what you're saying about the double nutting for drilling purposes..)

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