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    Lead Ingots For Sale - Buyer's Choice

    Hello,

    Up for sale are 50+LB packages of range lead ingots. One 50+lb box to your door is $67.55 (postage rate increased 1/26/2020). Insurance for packages valued up to $50 is free; if you wish to insure the entire package value, up to $100, the cost is $2.85. Once your package is in the hands of the USPS, it is USPS's responsibility to deliver it to you, not mine. Thank you.



    *** IMPORTANT NOTE *** As of 11/24/2018, I am reporting the results of having sorted and processed 1196 pounds of wheel weights fetched approximately 3 weeks ago.

    30% lead (280 lbs clipon ingots, 80.2 lbs stickons straight off the rim) ** In January of 2018, the yield in lead ingots was 48% **
    61% steel (727.1 lbs)
    8% zinc (95.1 lbs)
    1% junk (13.6 lbs).


    So as you can see, lead wheel weights are becoming more scarce... eventually in my area, there will be no more. I do have the opportunity to buy wheel weights from 2 scrap yards, but at a high price; due to the scarcity, and my expenses (notably rent), I have raised my prices. For those of you who have dealt with me over the years, I have charged a very fair price. Unfortunately, I am unable to sustain my business without raising my prices. For the time being, range lead will remain at $1.05 a pound, but I may not be able to hold to that forever. At this time, I am doing a business analysis to determine whether or not to phase out wheel weights. If I factor in my time to collect, sort, and smelt, I have lost money. That aside, with the cost of rent and propane, I am barely making a profit. You may ask, why do all of this work for very little return on investment. My answer is: I like helping my fellow shooters. I know that some people no longer can obtain lead locally as they once were able to do in the past, and I never take advantage of that. Unfortunately the day will come when I call it quits in regard to wheel weights but as things stand now, I should have a steady supply of range lead. Unfortunately, some neighboring states have banned the use of new lead wheel weights and as I have shown above, ww lead yield last year this time was 48% - and as of this writing (Nov 2018), it is down to 30%. I guess I can call this a labor of love! I enjoy this forum very much and I will hang in for as long as I can! Love you guys and gals!

    Update on 6/11/2019: I have discontinued fetching wheel weights. Too little lead, and TOO MUCH STEEL. At this time, I will be selling only range lead which I have a steady year round supply. I can fetch soft lead from time to time on an individual request basis, but price needs to be agreed upon prior to my buying it from a scrap yard, if they have it available.



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    Lead Prices as of 5/5/2019:

    Range Lead ingots $1.05 per pound. One 50+lb box shipped to one's door is $67.55 (price includes postage for the USPS Priority Medium Flat Rate Box, which is $15.05 as of 1/26/2020). The math: 50lb x 1.05 = 52.50 + 15.05 = 67.55 * I reserve the right to limit quanties *

    Clipon WW ingots [ Discontinued as of 6/11/2019 ]

    Stickon WW ingots and straight off the rim [ discontinued as of May 2019 ]

    Please send a PM if you are looking for soft lead to check on availability at a scrapyard that I deal with.

    Note: smaller quantities of lead ingots can be shipped via USPS Priority Small Flat Rate Box. At the time of this writing, the cost of the USPS Priority Small Flat Box is $8.30 due to USPS rate increase as of 1/26/2020).

    ALL SALES OF LEAD AND QUANTITY MUST BE APPROVED PRIOR TO FUNDS BEING SENT. If funds are sent without approval (which has happened on occasion), I simply return the funds back to the sender. Thank you for your understanding.

    Note: I reserve the right to limit the number of boxes sold to each person and company.

    *** PLEASE NOTE *** Once a package is accepted by the USPS and is in their possession, I am no longer responsible for it. Up to $50 insurance per package is free. Should a package get lost or delayed, it is up to the forum member to do the followup. To date (since February 2007): all packages with correct addresses have made it to their destinations. There have been times a package has been delayed anywhere from 4 to 16 days either due to weather, being routed incorrectly in the USPS system, etc. - but eventually the package reaches its destination. Tracking numbers are always provided via a PM or by automatic tracking notifications from the USPS via email. Thank you ***


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    *** Note:
    Range lead has an approximate BHN of 12-14
    Clipon lead has an approximate BHN of 12-14, and reported by some casters to be harder (on a par with linotype)
    Stickon lead has an approximate BHN of 8-10, and has been reported by a fishing sinker company when poured into thin strips of 1/8", it bends like pure lead. Some casters use the stickon lead as a substitute for pure lead.

    I leave it up the to buyer to make his or her own determinations as to the suitability of my lead for their needs. This forum has a wealth of information to assist with this effort.
    I do offer money back guarantee for those unsmelted pounds returned, but to-date, I have yet to have a single return. I do my best to describe my lead but final choice is up to the buyer.

    *** End of Note ***

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    Also, the only other important post of this lengthy thread if you wish to read, is post 140 http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/...&postcount=140.

    When supplying me with your name and address, PLEASE DOUBLE-CHECK IT TO BE SURE THAT IT IS CORRECT. I do a copy and paste to ensure accuracy when doing invoicing and postage labeling. For first time buyers, you must provide to me your contact information via a PM or Email. Because I had one 50lb box sent to an incorrect address (circa 2012), the system showed it being returned to me... but it has not yet reached my hand. So to protect both myself and the buyer, I need to do a copy and paste. This way, I am sending to the exact address as given. If the first time buyer does not fulfill this simple request, their snail mail envelope will be refused upon receipt, and dropped back into the mail. I can not afford to misread an address or do a typo, which is easy for anyone to do. By having the buyer provide the address in electronic format, and if it is incorrect, then that's their oversight - not mine. THANK YOU.

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    ** Note (8/23/2014): my preferred method of payment is via USPS Money Order (due to convenience of being able to cash at the post office. A nice perk after lugging all this weight around, and sometimes having to stand in line for 20 minutes with packages "all set to go" - but they still make you wait!). I do accept other kinds of money orders, bank checks, etc, (except cash - if the letter gets lost in the mail, I have no way of proving that it never made it to my hand). Other payment arrangements can be made if those listed present a hardship... simply ask. Thank you! End of note **


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    Some information in regard to the Wheel Weight and Range Lead ingots:

    Here is what Mike (Mikenbarb) had to say about my WW lead:

    " ... and the WW lead she sells works great in my pistols and the lead is even clean enough to use in a Littleton shot maker. I did the Saeco hardness testing for her and it all comes out around the standard WW BHN. "


    Some information in regard to the Range Lead ingot:

    I must note that I do pick up lead from a few indoor ranges:
    I can say is that some ranges shoot mostly .22's, while some ranges shoot a more balance mix - ranging from .22 on up to .45acp. I am far from being an expert in regard to the hardness and properties of the lead reclaimed so I hope this description will suffice.

    A forum member recently tested my range lead ingots derived from 2 different indoor ranges. His tester is a Lee. The lead from one range was a mix of many years, due to not cleaning out the range. That sample tested at 13.4 and the other (lead cleaned out twice a year), tested at 11.

    ** update 6/27/2012 ===> My range lead is on a par with that of ww clipon lead in terms of hardness. Both types of lead have been used by professional boolit casters without any drama and feedback has been received indicating that both types are very clean.


    And talking about feedback. I would like to share with you what a new forum member asked me last week. And because I could not give him an informed answer, I asked for help from the fishing company that I deal with. The question:

    " I'm new here and was googling around to buy lead. What kind of lead would you recommend for me to melt to make fishing jigheads/ weights? "

    And the answer:

    " The captains range lead works supurb for molding sinkers and even the smallest fishing jigs. I have been buying lead from them for many years and have molded tens of thousands of sinkers and jigs. D&B Tackle uses Captain Enterprises exclusively for our lead supplies as we find that we get little to no waste and the lead pours nicely into the molds.

    Two thumbs up to a class act company.

    Floyd Reese D&B Tackle Co. Nokomis, FL "

    <=== end of update


    The average weight of the range lead ingots are around 3.5 pounds. Some may be a few tenths of a pound heavier, and others can weigh around 2.5+ pounds. Just depends upon the pour. The dimensions are approximately 7.75" long x 1.5" wide x 1" high.

    And if you are reading this, I thank you for looking!

    With kind regards,

    ~ Kathie
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    Ingots cast using 45-70 Shooter's molds are pictured below.

    1/2 mold for stickon ingots. Approx. 2" x 4"

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    The longer molds were used for clipon ingots.
    Approx 2" x 7-3/4" and 2" x 8".

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    Last edited by TheCaptain; 01-27-2020 at 02:11 PM. Reason: Postal Rate increase 1/26/2020
    My Feedback Thread!

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    I'll take two packages of wheel weights

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    Kathie,

    Glad to see ya again. If you can possibly do it, keep the stick ons separate from the clip ons. Many are willing to pay a little more for the softer lead.

    Cheers and then some,

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    To Bob:

    Hi Bob,

    What do they say, a day late and a dollar short????? YES, I do agree with you 100% to keep the clipons separate from the stickies. I had over 900LBS of WW's that I casted the last time around; and it dawned on me (at the very tail end.................) to cast stickies separate from the clipons.... DUH on my part!!!! However, I did salvage enough stickies to make up 25 pounds of ingots; and 150+ pounds of ingots cast only from stickon's.... and sold them on the forum.

    Because I deal in such high volume, and BEFORE I became better educated... I did not know that there is a "difference". And I also marketed to people who make fishing sinkers, and they were happy to have the "mix". However: Never too late to learn.... AND I HAVE LEARN A LOT BY THE GREAT PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM, including yourself.

    But, right now, I have to deal with the "error of my ways" and sell the WW lead - which is not a lost cause since I believe some boolit casters find this type of lead OK for their particular application.

    Take care, and I thank you for your pearls of wisdom.

    With kind regards,

    ~ Kathie

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    To Bearcove.

    Hi!

    Please send me a PM - and we can exchange information.

    THANKS A BUNCH.

    With kind regards,

    ~ Kathie

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    Kathie - Sent message from other posting. Will take 1 box of range lead. PM sent
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    hello kathie sent you a pm any questions just
    thanks for the service you give us here
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    To Iron Mule

    I thank you for your PM - and your compliments. You are very kind!!!!

    Take care for now!

    With kind regards,

    ~ Kathie

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    well what can i say/// recieved the lead today all 4 boxes ww and range lead// was one of the best packing jobs i have seen in a while no boxes torn or broken open, all was well packed and padded // the lead ingots were very clean and well prepared/// you can't go wrong with getting your lead here// nice job / will be dealing with kathie again
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    USPS - Rate increase

    The USPS has increased their rates for 2011 as noted in post #1, which can be viewed by clicking on the link below. Thanks!!

    http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/...67&postcount=1
    Last edited by TheCaptain; 01-27-2011 at 10:51 AM. Reason: USPS rate increase Jan 2011

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    G'Day Mam
    I have been buying from members here as they offer but it is rather a bit helter skelter though trying to find any regularity to availability and also to consistency of alloy.
    I have a custom casting business in Alaska and need a more regular source.
    I am interested in making arrangements for a steady supply.
    My needs are for both WW alloy and also very soft lead that for practical purposes could be considered pure.
    Last week I got 300 lbs of WW from a member but that was all he had.
    I would like to try a couple hundred lbs of WW alloy if you have it available.
    If it is what I need then I would expect to buy a couple hundred lbs per month average.
    I shut down my shop in the summer because we have too many subsistence chores too get done but cast commercially from October to April.
    I would most likely keep buying through out the summer just to stay ahead on inventory.
    I am anxious to hear from you.
    Thanks
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    2010 - Waiting List for WW clipons

    Hello,

    For prices of my lead, kindly view Post #1 which can be viewed by clicking on the following link: http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/...67&postcount=1

    Please send a PM to confirm contact and availability of lead.

    I am requesting payment to be made preferably by USPS Postal Money Order, but will take under consideration other payment methods on an individual basis. Any unsolicited funds will be returned to sender - all sales have to be approved in advance of payment.

    I reserve the right to limit quantities of lead ingots sold per customer.

    WW lead clipon ingots are cast using Ray's mold.

    WW stickon ingots are cast using Ray's "short" mold.

    Range lead ingots are cast using my signature "Bullet Lead" mold.

    In regard to my lead. Various people have tested my WW clip on lead ingots and the hardness is pretty much standard for WW. For further information, please see post #18 of this thread:
    http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/...1&postcount=18

    In regard to the hardness of my range lead, current tests show it to be in a range of 12.5 to 15 BHN. In November 2009, I bought a Cabine Tree tester and the lead tested at around 12.5 BHN. Another forum member (using a Cabine Tree tester) also got 12.5 BHN. A custom boolit shop owner (Bullshop) did a test, and he came up with 15BHN.

    I will advise that I am no "expert", and I have done the best I can to describe my lead. I rely on the customer to do their own tests {if necessary} and make adjustments accordingly. My previous venue was that of fishing sinkers and I found that there was no need to be so detailed.

    If my lead does not "work out" for you, I will refund money by the pound for ingots returned and refund return postage, up to $10.20. However, since I started selling in Feb. 2006, I have yet to have anyone do any returns.

    Please note: the ingots can vary in "height" due to the pour. I sometimes do short pours, and I end up with an accumulation of ingots weighing anywhere from around 1.5LBS to around 2.5 to 3 pounds. The average weight of my ingots are around 3.6 LBs, give or take a few 10ths of pound. I MAKE NO GUARANTEE THAT ALL INGOTS IN THE BOX WILL BE AROUND THE 3.6 LB AVERAGE WEIGHT.

    I welcome all feedback, and it can be posted here in this thread and/or in the Straightshooters and Deadbeats portion of the forum as well. I thank you in advance for your understanding.

    Any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact me by way of a PM.

    I do not take monies in advance - - I don't want to deal with the recordkeeping of holding funds for lead that I do not have in stock. When I have lead ready to ship, it is at that time I will make payment arrangements (on a 1 to 1 basis) by way of a PM.

    With kind regards,

    ~ Kathie
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    Last edited by TheCaptain; 01-27-2011 at 11:21 AM. Reason: link to post #1 for pricing
    My Feedback Thread!

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    For current pricing and lead information, please see Post #1 of my VS thread:

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    PM sent. I would like one lot of range lead

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    To: Deltaenterprizes

    Thanks!!! PM has been sent to you.

    ~ K

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    PM sent......

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    Kathie, just out of curiosity do you have a BHN on the WW?

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    BHN for WW

    Hi Vance,

    I am new to testing; did a few readings with my Cabine Tree tester; I get between 12 and 14 for the BHN. I am no expert by far! For the few readings I took, the dial came in at .078 and chart has .074 to .076 as 12.5 BHN (est), and .080 to .083 = 14 BHN (est).

    According the reference sheet: New WW 12.5 -est (taken at 1 day, by Cabine ) and Aged WW (14) est (taken after several months).

    My ingots have been kicking about for a couple of months; and it is anyone's guess as to the age of the "raw" WW-s; and according to the cross reference sheet, Cabine Tree states: "WW (wheel wts) vary in composition and your results may vary slightly."

    And I must emphasize that I am a newbie at testing; I start the reading as soon as I sense the point touching the ingot - but I realize I have to develop a consistent technique... which takes practice.

    All in all, I do my best to describe my lead and leave the final tests up to the boolit caster, who I believe can make adjustments accordingly.

    Not sure if this helps; I believe the final answer rests with the boolit caster and his/or her tester.

    With kind regards,

    ~ Kathie

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    I have bought two boxes of WW and two boxes of range lead from "The Captain" and both products are great. Good clean lead.

    I cast the range lead as is in a NOE 358429 mold. To get proper fill out I had to raise the temperature a few degrees but they came out great. In my .38 special loading I put 4.2grs unique behind this 177gr boolit and got no leading. Went to 5.0 grs and got bad leading.
    Accuracy was OK, this big bullet likes speed, but the alloy was great for normal 38 special velocity. I added 2.5 % tin and put 10grs 2400 behind this bullet and accuracy improved and no sign of leading.

    I added 2.5% tin to the WW ingots and was able to replicate the 38/44 HD loads of Elmer Keith with no leading out of my Mod 27's and 28's I settled on 11.5grs 2400, no leading.

    The Captains lead is great and price is good, try some you will not be sorry.

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    Thanks Hamour

    Dear Hank,

    I thank you for taking the time to write about your experience with my lead ingots.

    With kind regards,

    ~ Kathie

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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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