shortage on guns

[keeper89]

'got to agree with bisleyfan. I have owned a total of 10 or 12 various rugers over the years, have 4 in the stable now. had to send 2 back for repair....no charge either time and both came back "better than new"

[NHlever]

Ruger has always stood behind every product they make for as long as they have the parts to repair them whether you are the first, or 20th owner.

[kbstenberg]

Thank you Bisleyfan 41. Yes i was seeing all the Ruger bashing, an getting a little woried. I wasn't reading them jyst seeing the threads. An allso knowing you never hear about all the good new ones out there.
An just like 4 fingers said. If i were to get the money back to lookaround, here goes a little, an there goes a little. So i gues i will just wait.
Thans all to your opinions to stay put or go looking
Kevin

[jack19512]

Thank you Bisleyfan 41. Yes i was seeing all the Ruger bashing, an getting a little woried.

Well, you can label it bashing or whatever you want but there is plenty of evidence around to attest to Rugers quality control. My brand new Ruger SBH 44 mag has been off to Ruger for repair for almost 2 months now. The last 2 new Ruger 44 mags I purchased has had to go back for repairs.

This isn't bashing, just a fact. I still believe in Ruger products but I am very disappointed in some of their products that are making it out the doors to customers.

The fact that Ruger will stand behind their products is all well and good, but I bought this Ruger SBH to shoot and I can't shoot it if it is at Ruger getting repaired. Must be something really wrong with it for it to take Ruger 2 months to repair it, or could be so much stuff is coming back on them that they are just getting backed up. Your guess is as good as mine.

[Cowboy5780]

I sent my wife's p97 to Ruger a month ago and its back id call and try to check on it......

[jack19512]

I sent my wife's p97 to Ruger a month ago and its back id call and try to check on it......

The first 44 mag I sent back to Ruger for repair took exactly 5 weeks. After waiting 5 weeks on the most recent one I called Ruger and asked for an update. They told me that my SBH had been sent to the machine shop for a new cylinder fit and it would be another 3 weeks which would be a total of 2 months time it would be gone for repair. On July 7th it will have been exactly 2 months since Ruger received the revolver.

[bisleyfan41]

Jack,
I sure wish they fix your gun promptly and you get your gun back soon.

I'm not sure what to say, but if you've had 2 SBHs that have had to be sent back because of a genuine, significant defect, you must be one of the unluckiest people in the world. The odds of one person getting 2 lemons has got to be about 30 million to one.

I'm not sure of what repairs you refer to. Surely there must have been some sign of a problem you could detect in the gun before you paid for them that would lead you to believe there was something wrong. Please don't be offended because I'm not trying to and it's not my intent. I can't believe you have bought 2 brand new guns w/o some hint of an issue before the sale that have had problems significant enough to have to go back to the factory. Like I said, the odds of that are crazy.

And by that same token, if I HAD bought 2 Rugers that actually DID have significant issues requiring factory service right out of the box, I can tell you, I would sell them all and never buy another. You can't keep on buying them, knowing they're gonna be defective, and then think you have a right to complain. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

[watkibe]

I have had a Security Six, 2 Blackhawks, a Redhawk, 2 SP101s, a 10/22, and a Mark III. I keep buying Rugers because (in my experience) I know they always work, the first time, and every time. I'm sorry your experience has been different.

[jack19512]

I'm not sure what to say, but if you've had 2 SBHs that have had to be sent back because of a genuine, significant defect, you must be one of the unluckiest people in the world. The odds of one person getting 2 lemons has got to be about 30 million to one.

I'm not sure of what repairs you refer to. Surely there must have been some sign of a problem you could detect in the gun before you paid for them that would lead you to believe there was something wrong. Please don't be offended because I'm not trying to and it's not my intent. I can't believe you have bought 2 brand new guns w/o some hint of an issue before the sale that have had problems significant enough to have to go back to the factory. Like I said, the odds of that are crazy.

And by that same token, if I HAD bought 2 Rugers that actually DID have significant issues requiring factory service right out of the box, I can tell you, I would sell them all and never buy another. You can't keep on buying them, knowing they're gonna be defective, and then think you have a right to complain. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Nothing at all taken personally. But, as far as luck goes I've had my fair share of the bad. For someone like me that buys guns often and with Rugers quality control in the dump it's really not that uncommon. The "30 million to one" odds, really!!! Now if I were buying a lottery ticket I would agree with you.

And again, "Surely there must have been some sign of a problem you could detect in the gun before you paid for them that would lead you to believe there was something wrong." Well, not if the gun shop won't let you trial fire the gun before purchasing, which I have yet to find one that would let you do this with a new gun. Maybe possibly a used one if you know them good enough.

And, "And by that same token, if I HAD bought 2 Rugers that actually DID have significant issues requiring factory service right out of the box, I can tell you, I would sell them all and never buy another. You can't keep on buying them, knowing they're gonna be defective, and then think you have a right to complain. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me." And, this is your opinion and this might be how you feel but you are not me. It's my money not yours. Anytime I purchase something new that has defects right from the get go that automatically gives me the right to complain.

As I said in my earlier post I still believe in Ruger. I have a Ruger SRH 454 Casull that I really like. I have a Ruger GP 100 357 mag that I really like. I have a Ruger MKII 22 lr pistol that I really like.

I've had several Chevy and Ford products that had problems right off the bat but that didn't stop me from buying them again. It could be just my bad luck or just one heck of a coincidence but all of my problems with Rugers have been with the 44 mag single action revolvers. No problems with any of my other Ruger products.

[jack19512]

I keep buying Rugers because (in my experience) I know they always work, the first time, and every time.

OK.......if you say so. But I believe I can prove that there are lots of Rugers going back for some kind of warranty work after being purchased new. I'm glad you and others have had such great positive results.

[jack19512]

Scroll down to post #10.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=288454

[jack19512]

I haven't heard from Ruger yet about my SBH 44 mag and tomorrow will be 2 months that it has been back to them for repairs so I decided to give them another call for an update.

They couldn't tell me anything new today but will call me back in a day or so. I asked the guy at Ruger why it was taking so long to repair my revolver and his exact words were "we are super, super, super busy and even had to put on a second shift". So..............

[bisleyfan41]

Jack,
I think I came off a little "harsher" in my post than I intended and I apologize for that. I sincerely hope Ruger gets your gun fixed up right for you and that your luck with them changes. I have/had 12 Ruger centerfire SAs (5 41s, 6 44s, and 1 45) and have had nary a problem (knock on wood/I'd hate to jinx that now) with any of them. Good luck.

[jack19512]

Jack,
I think I came off a little "harsher" in my post than I intended and I apologize for that.

No need for any apologies, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and everyone's personal experience is welcomed by me whether it be good or bad. I am glad to hear about the positive posts about Ruger because I do like Ruger and regardless of my several experiences will continue to support them.

Lucky for me I do have my Ruger SRH 454 Casull to shoot while waiting for the return of my SBH 44 mag. The problem I have with this minor set back is that I had purchased me a Marlin 1894 44 mag and I was in the process of working up some cast boolit loads that would work good in both.

Problem was I was having real good luck with my cast boolits in the Marlin but couldn't get the SBH to shoot worth a crap even from 25 yards. I was doing much, much better with the Marlin at 50 yards than I could do with the SBH at 25 yards. I even tried JHP commercial ammo also and believe it or not was actually doing better with my cast boolits than with the commercial ammo.

So, I wasted a lot of lead, primers, and powder trying to get this revolver to shoot and had no worth while success. I did all I knew to try before sending it back to Ruger. I knew the cylinder should be looked at and Ruger must have agreed with me because they have replaced it(or going to) but the barrel was where I think my real problem lies and so far nothing has been mentioned about it. So I will wait and see.

When I get it back I will try again and will let everyone know how it turns out. If they do not address the barrel issue I do not expect anything to change though. If nothing changes I will just have to take a loss on the revolver and send it on it's way. I will still want a 44 mag revolver to go with my Marlin 44 mag so I could be doing some shopping around in the near future.

[jack19512]

I'm still waiting patiently, no word from Ruger yet on my SBH 44 mag.

[jack19512]

I knew the cylinder should be looked at and Ruger must have agreed with me because they have replaced it(or going to) but the barrel was where I think my real problem lies and so far nothing has been mentioned about it.

Well, Ruger didn't get back with me like they said they would to give me an update so I called them this mourning. The person I spoke with informed me that the cylinder had been replaced and now the SBH was having the barrel replaced.

Which is good news to me because I was sure that was my problem as far as accuracy was concerned. So, they are replacing both items that I told them about. But, do they have someone that is very qualified doing this work or do they have one of the shop monkeys doing the work?

I really hope the SBH comes back right and it doesn't have to make a second trip back to Ruger. I have read stories where someone has sent a firearm in for repair and it came back worse than before.

[jack19512]

I got an unexpected call from Ruger today. They just wanted to update me on what's going on with my SBH 44 mag. They informed me of what I mostly already knew. Cylinder had been replaced, barrel was being replaced, said something about they were going to refinish it, and they were going to range test it when finished. But, they told me they couldn't give me a time line of when the SBH would be returned back to me. It seems like my SBH has been gone a very long time.

[bisleyfan41]

Hang in there.
It'll be worth it.

[jack19512]

I have to admit that I am a little puzzled about the refinishing part. Although they have/are replacing the cylinder and the barrel maybe this is just normal procedure I don't know.

[jack19512]

It's been 10 weeks as of today. Still waiting. No word yet when I will get the 44 mag back.