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Thread: RCE .224 jacket maker die arrived.

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    Boolit Master Adam10mm's Avatar
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    RCE .224 jacket maker die arrived.

    Now I have to save up for the Walnut Hill press.

    Looks fairly easy to work with. The threaded die goes in the top of the press and the punch screws into the ram. Case is lubed then placed on the punch and firmly but slowly raised through the die. The rod laying down is to push out a broken jacket. Six jackets were included as examples. Three brass colored ones are .22LR and the longer nickel ones I think are .22WMR. The short ones are .715" long and the others are .810" long. The instructions state the .22LR cases will draw out to .700" or so and will make about a 50gr OT bullet or 55gr SP.



    I haven't figured out what the one on the left is for yet. The directions aren't clear and their are no pictures or diagrams. It seems to be the core seating punch but the attachment method to the press baffles me.



    This end is internally threaded.
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    So, what is the average cost for this stuff.

    Just got here, and been wondering how to get started.

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    $75 shipped. The swaging dies will run little less than $500. The Walnut Hill press will run $350.
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    if you are going to buy a walnut hill press you should order it now,it could be 6 months or more before you see it

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    Dammit.
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    As I understand you, this is a jacket making kit correct? A kit to make jackets from .22 RF cases...

    If this assumption on my part is correct the punch on the left is what will go up inside of the empty cases and be attached to ram of your press. Than you'd ease the empty case up into the drawing die to iron off the rim of the case. What I can't figure is how it attaches to the ram of the press. You mention a Walnut Hill Press. I've been out of the Reloading Game for a long time, but I'm assuming that the internal threads would have to used in a fashion to attach to the press.

    What I don't see is the jacket removal system, from the punch, once you get the priming rim ironed off.

    I'd suggest contacting the die makers and ask them...

    Good Luck,

    Jim

    Quote Originally Posted by freakshow10mm View Post

    I haven't figured out what the one on the left is for yet. The directions aren't clear and their are no pictures or diagrams. It seems to be the core seating punch but the attachment method to the press baffles me.
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    You have everything you need with this die set, but it's a set for the RCE WH Swage press.
    The punch is for the top punch holder.

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    Here are instructions for the other Corbin's dies. The principle is the same.

    http://www.corbins.com/rfjm.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Fleming View Post
    As I understand you, this is a jacket making kit correct? A kit to make jackets from .22 RF cases...
    Yes, it's the jacket making die to make .224 jackets with .22 rimfire cases.

    If this assumption on my part is correct the punch on the left is what will go up inside of the empty cases and be attached to ram of your press. Than you'd ease the empty case up into the drawing die to iron off the rim of the case.
    No. The large, dark piece threads onto the ram and the punch that is already in that is the punch that is used to push the casing into the die.

    What I don't see is the jacket removal system, from the punch, once you get the priming rim ironed off.
    It's a pass through die. You put the casing on the punch, raise it in the die, lower the ram, put another case on the punch, raise it up and repeat. Jackets are pushed up from underneath and exit the top of the die. No jacket removal system is needed.
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    .22 derimming dies are also available that work in a regular press - I use a set of Blackmon dies , but use 'em in the Corbin press with the reloading adapter mostly 'cause it's so much better leverage wise - but I've used 'em in several single stage reloading presses and had no trouble either

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooterg View Post
    .22 derimming dies are also available that work in a regular press - I use a set of Blackmon dies , but use 'em in the Corbin press with the reloading adapter mostly 'cause it's so much better leverage wise - but I've used 'em in several single stage reloading presses and had no trouble either
    Are Blackmon dies still available? I googled it but no results.

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    Freakshow, that clears things up quite a bit, thank you... I didn't realize the setup was intended for pass thru...

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    I have some stuff like that,would take only about $100.00 to get both pieces!
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    Larry Blackmon(Bullet Swaging Supply, Inc.) has no website - call him at 318-387-7257 or write BSSI, 303 McMillan Road, West Monroe, LA 71291

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    Quote Originally Posted by dale clawson View Post
    Are Blackmon dies still available? I googled it but no results.
    I just got my derimming die from Larry (works great). Waiting on the rest of the dies. He has been rearranging his shop and is running behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooterg View Post
    Larry Blackmon(Bullet Swaging Supply, Inc.) has no website - call him at 318-387-7257 or write BSSI, 303 McMillan Road, West Monroe, LA 71291
    Or

    Bullet Swaging Supply, Inc.
    PO Box 1056
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    ETG,

    Just curious, how long have you been waiting for your dies? I know the Corbin's are backed up too, so I was wondering how far behind Dr. Blackmon is.

    Thanks,
    Dan

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    ETG,

    Just curious, how long have you been waiting for your dies? I know the Corbin's are backed up too, so I was wondering how far behind Dr. Blackmon is.

    Thanks,
    Dan

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    That thing on the left is a core seat die for the 3 die set.

    I just got my WH press up and running today with the dies from Richard. If you have any other Q's let me know....I'm learning as I go. I got a jacket maker as well.
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    I have only been waiting maybe two months. He has everything except one punch and a core swage die. I ask him to go on and send me the derimming die so I could make the jackets while waiting on the other dies and press. Derimming die arrived in about a week.

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