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Thread: Ruger's In!!!!

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    Boolit Buddy Ron B.'s Avatar
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    Talking Ruger's In!!!!

    Well, finalllllyyyy!
    Ruger came through!

    This past Friday, I received my Super Redhawk back from Ruger! They replaced everything but the serial number! Lol! To be more exact, the cylinder and just about everything that operates it!
    I'd purchased the revolver several months ago, used from Bud's Guns. Upon delivery, I noticed minute cracks developing between the cylinders. Just so all of you will know, Bud's blew me off. I'm glad Ruger didn't! This is actually the second SRH I've had which developed these sorts of problems. So, I was ready; giving the revolver a good gander when I got it in from Bud.

    Here's a photo showing my new.old thrill along with two of my favorite 44 Mag loads/cast bullets.

    Thank you for your interest!
    GRB
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    Ruger will fix their guns no matter who the owner is or was and usually at no cost. High-dollar gun makers could learn something from them.

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    they did the same thing for me on a MKI, looked like they took the reciever and barrel and put them back on the assembly line for a rebuild with all new parts.
    then just today i had occasion to call and they are sending me a factory letter for a gun that i believe has history, N/C. i guess it is just the way they do things.
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    Thanks Guys!
    I like my Rugers! This Super Redhawk sports a 7.5 barrel; and is very accurate. My last one had a 9 inch barrel; scoped, it was a hog killer. I've wished so many times I'd held on to it. Oh well, there's plenty for sale!

    I'm wondering now; how long will it take Ruger to return my $75 shipping fees? They wrote; agreeing to.

    GRB

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    When I was a dealer Ruger had the highest return rate of all firearms I sold. I still have one, a MK2 22cal pistol but I had to repair the sear disconnect plate to make the trigger reset. I dont think I will ever buy another Ruger product. Yes I know they will repair them, but I perfer to spend my money on a product that I can use out of the box.

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    absent ruger, who's product would you trust, out of the box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdawg_shooter View Post
    When I was a dealer Ruger had the highest return rate of all firearms I sold. I still have one, a MK2 22cal pistol but I had to repair the sear disconnect plate to make the trigger reset. I dont think I will ever buy another Ruger product. Yes I know they will repair them, but I perfer to spend my money on a product that I can use out of the box.
    I agree I think Ruger needs to get better quality control that is why I will not buy one anymore. I think some of the old ones were good guns. I also heard from some one who used to work at Ruger but does not anymore that the old machinist who worked at Ruger made good guns and they knew how to tweak the machinery to get them good guns. Now that they are all gone or retired and the machinery is getting worn or older the new folks they have do not know how to get them good guns consistantly anymore. Just his explanation but it makes some sense to me. After several bad Rugers I am gun shy (pun intended) to try any of their products anymore. Which is why I just bought a Uberti over the choice of a Ruger on my last purchase.
    A gun is like a parachute: If you need one and don't have one, you won't be needing one again.

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    I must just be lucky. I have had problem guns by other makes and I have had to return a couple of revolvers to S&W (with good service I might add). I have had several Rugers of various vintages with no major issues. Granted, we have the recent and well-documented safety issues, and I have inspected a few that had problems like sprung cranes and the like that I naturally decided to stay away from (owner-induced issues). I have a BH that had a rough ejector housing - easily fixed. And, I had an earlier used Single Six that required a whack with a babbit bar to get it on target. It would not shoot to center even at max left windage when I got it. No wonder I got such a good deal.

    Despite the fact that I like to give purchases a thorough inspection before throwing down cash, I have ordered a few new with complete satisfaction. I will continue to buy from them. About the only thing I find vexing about Ruger is their complete inability to keep up with demand. And, at the same time, they are creating new demand and exacerbating the problem. It took me forever to find a Bearcat as they have not produced them in at least 2 years.

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    From a personal experience, I've owned/own a number of Rugers. I've been pleased with every one! Yes, the two SRHs needed returned to the factory; and with identical problems. But, in all honesty was either revolver truely defective? I think heavy loads did the damage in both cases. I know I shot the first one; a lot. And, knowing how tough it was built, took liberties on my reloads. However, I don't think any of them (my reloads) exceeded factory load limits. But, I don't know what the guy ahead of me did. Both revolvers were purchased use. I do know now, my shooting style is different. I'm not out to produce a round, so hot the bullet melts before reaching the end of the barrel. Yes, aging has definitely slowed things down!

    By the way, I own both the old style Vaquero and the new style. I love my new Vaquero; as I feel I got a bargain price-wise/quality-wise. The old Vaquero is not near the weapon the new style is. In my honest opinion; of course.

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    It is easy for me to be objective about Rugers now that I do not own any; us gun owners tend to get defensive when some one says bad things about guns they own even if there is some truth to it. I felt the same way about Barnett Crossbows when I owned one I could not understand why folks were bashing them on the net until I shot other brands and got an Excaliber then my eyes were opened and I seen others were right.
    A gun is like a parachute: If you need one and don't have one, you won't be needing one again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobke View Post
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    absent ruger, who's product would you trust, out of the box?
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    The only Smith I have ever sent back is my M29. Sent it back for their Endurance Package after over 5000 rounds. I have 5 Colts, both autos and revolvers, and have never returned one. Dito on Savage and Marlin. One Wincherster and 2 Remingtons returned.

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    I have around 10 rugers, and no they aren't as refined as some out of the box. But then again the price sorta reflects that too. But videos and manuals to tweak them are readily available, and what better way to get to know your revolver than to tear it down and do some minor work on it yourself. Sometimes it takes multiple attempts to get it where i want, but isn't that part of the fun of it?

    And I wouldn't feel nearly as comfortable shooting full power house loads out of any other brand revolver under $1K.

    Ken

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    Depending on the cartridge some do not need full power house loads to get the job done. A big chunk of lead going slow still gets the job done.
    A gun is like a parachute: If you need one and don't have one, you won't be needing one again.

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    I will say that I am biased toward Rugers (I have their logo tattoed on my forearm )

    But, I have had several Ruger's and I have abused them in the pursuit of finding the "ultimate load" when I was a teenager and loading and casting.

    355gr load around 1300 fps out of Redhawk, :S

    Everyone of the Ruger's I have/had/shot are just dependable guns.

    Nowdays, I see no need to load hot, and I enjoy shooting my guns, I will take a Ruger over any revolver.

    I agree with jh45gun, I never had a Ram fail to topple with a 44 mag CB 255gr at 1100fps.

    Look at your ballistics. (Actually I have a Speer manual beside let me do it)

    200gr bullet at Muzzle-1600fps 50yds-1406fps 100yds-1243fps 150yds-1118fps 200yds-1029fps
    Same bullet at Muzzle-1100fps 50yds-1017fps 100yds-954fps 150yds-904fps 200yds-861fps

    I start out 500fps slower at the muzzle but at 200yds I am just 168fps slower then the guy at 1600.

    Anyway back to Ruger, my ex bought me a Pawn shop Ruger, found out the Cylinder was cracked, sent it to them and basically got back a new pistol, still have the pistol.

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    I bought a used New Model .45 That someone had 'Fanned' a bunch. The hand and Cyl. notch were worn. After I shot this gun about 10,000 times the cyl. notch wore out. I shipped it to Ruger and they replaced everything in it. No charge... Turn around time was quick too.
    I got great service.

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    I had a Ruger Super Blackhawk as a young man 30 years ago and I can say that it was a solid gun. I shot it a lot but it never really fit me, although it was a good gun. I ended up trading it in on a S&W 29 which I loved and still have today. I did see a Super Blackhawk like mine with a cracked chamber and the owner was still shooting it just not the that chamber! Ruger builds a good product but I think that they may not be as strong as people perceive them to be. IMHO
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    IMHO, all manufacturers go through ups and downs in their quality control. It all ultimately comes down to a small group of people who are in charge of purchasing metal stock for machined parts or running the foundry. A lot of the problems with the end products can be traced to those people. A lot of the stress testing that takes place on prototype guns is conducted on parts that have their metal alloys tightly controlled. When they ramp up for production the metals used are not as tightly controlled. They can't control the metal quality when their volume goes up.

    All that being said, I'm a big Ruger fan. I like their customer service and they stand behind their product.

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