A raise.

[Remmy4477]

The company I work for (LTL Carrier) gave us our annual May raise. $1.25 this year.

With everything going on in the world I'm just happy to be working, so the raise is welcomed.
Yet quite a few senior drivers and many of the newbies are having a fit about it. Most are saying it's not enough or we deserve better.

I've been with this company for just over 20 years now. When I started here it was $16 something.
Took me twenty years to break over $36 an hour.

I think there was six years we did not get anything raise wise. And most of the crew was ok with that, they were working. But now nothing but complaining about a buck and a quarter raise.

Most of these guys have maybe 5-8 years in the industry, I just breached 37 years in it. When I started driving in LTL the non union outfits were $5-6 an hour at best, the unions at the time were paying $12 an hour. Times have changed wage wise.

I just don't understand the complaints about a raise, the company treats us good, lots of perks and decent benefits. Since Captain Tripp's the LTL industry has been struggling to recover from all the setbacks and low freight volume. Our company mustered through it and made and are still making a profit.

Still all the complaints I've heard this last week, WOW! I just don't get it? Maybe it's just me?

Just an old guy talking! Need more coffee I guess?

[PJEagle]

There is nothing wrong with your thinking. Some of us older folks remember when we were thankful to have a job. If the younger people don't appreciate the raise, they can always go somewhere else.

[country gent]

There are many who truly believe if their willing to go 1.25 they'll go 1.75. Many newer workers also dont know that a raise used to be EARNED by skill, performance, knowledge and productivity.

[Handloader109]

My daughter works for one of the big trucking firms. They are hurting. They did give a decent raise last year, but are looking at very little thus year. The industry had a large boon during the shutdown and afterwards, but things hit a brick wall last year. Oh, things like the 99 cent stores closing have dramatic affect. They have 2000 drivers and 200 managers affected by just that one chain. A buck and a quarter raise? Ain't bad at all. But when the CEO is making several million a year, it chaps people. But divide that 2 or 3 million by 10k or 20k folks and it is maybe a hundred a YEAR for all of them. Which works out to maybe a nickle an hour..... but most couldn't do the math.

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[dverna]

You are old and stupid. You should be getting at least a $2/hr raise.

I don't understand people. If they think they are worth more, then get another job.

Some of those guys need to get laid off for a couple of months and learn some hard lessons.

My buddy lost his job when Yellow Freight close up. The union was partly to blame. Lots of regrets now.

[Mr Peabody]

I drove truck most of my working life, 27% of the load was standard. I finally got an hourly job in '91. What a nice change, it paid $8.50 @hr and overtime. Every time I heard someone bitch about things I'd say Go do better. Most couldn't.

[ascast]

$1.25 for the year? or per hour this year?

[Meatball357]

Agreed Don. I almost wish this entire country would fall on real hard times for a week to knock some sense into Americans.

I remember cleaning public toilets as a youth for $2.10/hr, and I had to be picked from our class of 600 just for that honor!

[Remmy4477]

$1.25 for the year? or per hour this year?

Per hour.

[slownsteady22]

Not a truck driver but I work in a heavy manufacturing plant that is union. We received a decent pay raise this past year, seen the same kind of complaints about money. Most of my coworkers aren't worth minimum wage in my opinion.

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[Remmy4477]

You are old and stupid. You should be getting at least a $2/hr raise.

I don't understand people. If they think they are worth more, then get another job.

Some of those guys need to get laid off for a couple of months and learn some hard lessons.

My buddy lost his job when Yellow Freight close up. The union was partly to blame. Lots of regrets now.

Yea the YRC deal was bad! Have quite a few friends who are struggling after the shut down.

I was at NW back in the 90's when they shut the doors, that was a bad time!

[MaryB]

When I was working at the casino my supposed boss leaked who got what for raises to try and get some of the deadwood to quit. They got 1%, I got 10%... they came whining to me... I looked at them and flat out said "What do you do(grunt labor) compared to what I do(senior electronics tech/special projects manager)?" They stammered and made excuses and I looked at them and told them to "get out of my office, I have real work to do. Go back to drinking your pop sitting on your butt waiting for a service call you probably can't handle and I will have to go fix it."

They would slink out... 2 quit... 2 others decided to start learning how to improve themselves and get better pay...

[rancher1913]

playing devils advocate but think along these lines, you make say 35 bucks an hour and get a 2 buck raise our doing ok, newer driver started out at 20 bucks an hour gets a 2 buck raise their still below the poverty line and can not afford basic necessities, wouldn't you whine a little

[M-Tecs]

Did the raise cover the cost-of-living increase in your area? While I agree raises are always nice they are less nice if you are going backwards in purchasing power. In the past I've had zero raises or hourly cuts company wide.

[Txcowboy52]

I was always taught growing up, you only deserve a raise if you do your job well are dependable and are willing to go above and beyond as well as having a good attitude. So many people think they are owed something. Having a job should always be appreciated. Doing your best should always be expected. If you’re not happy go somewhere else, being happy and content is a state of mind, it’s that simple. You should enjoy what you do, knowing you have to take the good with the bad . If you can’t do that, move on and do everyone a favor. Just my humble opinion.

[Remmy4477]

playing devils advocate but think along these lines, you make say 35 bucks an hour and get a 2 buck raise our doing ok, newer driver started out at 20 bucks an hour gets a 2 buck raise their still below the poverty line and can not afford basic necessities, wouldn't you whine a little

Sadly 6 years ago the company could not find drivers. Their solution to the problem, raise the starting wage to what the senior people are making. So now everyone, new hire and senior people are getting the same wage.

Of course we have had a rash of some real fine folks that wreck before they even reach the street. LOL

[fg-machine]

Sometimes a raise can be rather insulting, $1.25 No so much .

But at my 1 and only job after 18 months @ $5.25 per hour the boss was so proud to give me a 5 cents per hour raise .
I asked him if he was sure he could afford the 2 bucks a week ...

That was the last paycheck I ever took from an employer , took my meager savings bought a 60 series monarch lathe and went out on my own .
Not because I was ungrateful for the job but because I could no longer tolerate my future being in someone else's hands .

[.429&H110]

I remember when minimum wage was $1.65
I started at 5X that, got to 10X, early 70's that was tall cotton.
Ended up at 4X minimum wage in 2016

The 70's yankee boss would give nickle raises
People would tell him to shove his nickle
so he did
(yankees keep nickles in funny places)
Butt I said gee thank you.
and next month, got another nickle
and the next: years end had 50 cents an hour more.
50 cents in 1973 was two gallons of gas.
Nickle drafts in a bar...
Take a raise and say thank you.

[elmacgyver0]

I never asked for a raise in my life, I figured if they didn't pay what I was worth I should find a new job.
I have always had a roof over my head and enough food to eat.
I had a retirement party when I turned 68, now I am a half a month away from 73.
I am still working part time, because I was asked to, not because I asked for it.
I have a computer, cell phone and a nice little Malibu to drive supplied by the company.
A lot better than sweeping floors at MacDonalds, life is good.

[country gent]

One thing I learned early on was the boss dosnt want to hear how hard it is, how busy you are, What he wants to hear is Lets see what we can do.

In most industries raises are normally not a set amount but a percentage of your current wage.

I hear what the Ceo is making but do you have to deal with the issues he does keeping shareholders happy keeping work coming in and upgrading everything, keeping the doors open, and last keeping every gov state and local agency happy?

I always told apprentices to take all the training classes offered by the employer. The shop could close the doors and youd loose your tools, but what they put in your head they couldnt take. Employers dont pay for the tools you own but for your experience and knowledge. They other is knowledge is one thing you can give away and keep at the same time.

A lot of people after 5 years are comfortable in the job and scared to move. They dont want to give up seniority, and what they are used to. Ive known a few that were forced to find new jobs later in their careers and almost all were happier with the new job.I did it in the late 90s and the new job was much better.

The other is a actual pay raise is good but better are improvements in benefits, vacations, guarantees in job security, and retirement plans. In the long run these are more valuable.

The trick is to make yourself the valuable employee, the go to person. The one who always tries and usually succeeds. The one always willing to learn. The one who can do.