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Thread: 30-30 neck splitting

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    Pack them up and send them back to Remington. A) if it is their problem they need to know, and B) they are the experts.
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    What Winger-Ed said. I had some new .30 Rem rimless brass I was neck expanding to .32 Rem. On firing the necks split. Annealed the rest of the batch, 90 new brass mind you, to solve the problem.
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    As the OP hasn't made a comment since starting the thread I'm inclined to believe a mistake was made. And not by the ammunition manufacturer.

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    I had one 30/30 case split out of a run of 100, as a result I've annealed all my 30/30 brass that doesn't have primers in, some of these cases are decades old and this will be their first annealing. I'm also annealing the 150 W-W new unprimed brass I have and will be doing the same to my 308 brass just so I'm happy that's one potential failure cause nipped in the bud.
    Before I did it I polished the manky cases with 0000 steel wool so I could see the discoloration forming.
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    picture of the neck splitting
    consistent on about 50% of the rounds fired
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    Try another brand to isolate the answer. If it splits also, that gun has a problem.
    But it looks like bad brass to me.


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    Now that you have posted a pic, I tend to agree with the bad brass diagnosis, especially since no obvious swelling seems apparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HWooldridge View Post
    Now that you have posted a pic, I tend to agree with the bad brass diagnosis, especially since no obvious swelling seems apparent.
    Agreed.

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    picture of the neck splitting
    consistent on about 50% of the rounds fired
    atr
    When I fire form my 30-30 Ackley improved that portion of the shoulder gets blown out to 40 degrees and the neck moves up about 1/4 inch. I might have a few cases out of 100 split but if you are getting 50% splits with a minimal change of shape it is the brass.


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    Old or BAD brass! Neck is filthy. IF purchased lately send to Rem, otherwise, just toss the cases. Annealing probably won't fix.
    Whatever!

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    Those Federal .303's I mentioned looked exactly like that. Bad brass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atr View Post
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    picture of the neck splitting
    consistent on about 50% of the rounds fired
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    I would mark the head of the case somehow so you know the orientation in the chamber! just because I would want to know if it always splits at the same Place, in the chamber...ie, Bad Chamber??? Especially if other brands have Not been tried!!

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