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    I was having a few problems with the 9mm and 8 bhn cast boolits also ...but
    the answer was a NOE boolit mould , #358-124-TC GC , sized to .357" , lubed with soft Lithi-Bee lubricant , with a gas check attached and then the thing that helped the most ... expand the case mouth with the correct sized NOE Expander Plug , the ones with the correctly sized M-Die Expander profile ... and ( Voila' )...Wah Lah ...
    Problems solved ... I honestly believe the gas check does a good job in the Pesky 9mm , if you wish to use softish boolits ... drive em fast and the soft slugs mushroom ... the GC protects the boolit base / barrel from leading .
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    Guys, thanks for all of your replies. I do appreciate them!

    I have been thinking things over. And took a long hard look at how I was loading the 9mm.

    I am using a expander plug from NOE. I love it.

    I have been using Carnuba Red for lube..... I'm gonna change that to a softer lube. Maybe a some old 50/50 that I have.

    While I was seating and crimping in two different steps. I hate to admit it but I was over crimping.
    I pulled a boolet and could see a groove in the boolet. And a slight bulge in front of the groove. That maybe part of the problem.

    I did back off of the seating die, to make sure it was not trying to crimp it while seating the boolet.

    I made a new dummy round with a real light crimp. I get no set back when I put a lot of pressure on it by pushing it against the table.
    And no set back when I chamberd it a couple of times.

    I will load up some new rounds maybe tomarow and see what happens.

    Thanks for all of your help
    Abenaki

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    dummy round with a real light crimp....
    No 'crimp' req'd
    Just de-flare to 379/380

    using an expander plug from NOE.
    'M'die like ?
    and can you easily hand pre-seat a nickel's worth ?

    maybe tomrrow and see what happens.
    Don't keep us in suspense !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehavey View Post
    No 'crimp' req'd
    Just de-flare to 379/380

    'M'die like ?
    and can you easily hand pre-seat a nickel's worth ?


    Don't keep us in suspense !!
    Yes like a "M" die, and I can pre-seat it by hand.

    Abenaki

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    RCBS 9mm die set comes with an M expander. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...9mm-luger.317/

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    Your cases maybe a tiny bit short. I have had this problem in my model 59 one time when I trimmed my cases a bit short.

    ACC

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check