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Thread: Anyone use W231 in 30-06?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkhuntclub View Post
    I have about 6lbs of Bullseye. Any suggestions on loads for it with the Lee 155 gr in 30-06?
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    The M1909 gallery practice load was 8 grains of Bullseye with the Ideal #308241 154-grain plainbased bullet. The M1919 Guard cartridge was 9 grains of Bullseye with the 150-grain FMJ M1906 Ball bullet.

    I have found that 4 grains of Bullseye the minimum charge which will reliably exit the barrel of an '03 Springfield with a 150-170-grain cast bullet similar to #311241 or #311291.

    I have found best accuracy with the 155-grain Lee bullet at 7-8 grains of Bullseye.

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    Interesting topic. I never would have thought W231 could go in a 30-06. I wonder if True Blue would work too?

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    If you want to try something really fun with your 30-06, buy yourself the Lee TL 314-90 SWC mold and cast up some bullets with it. I just use range scrap or WW, size it to .311, and lightly tumble lube it with Lee Liquid Alox lube. I load this bullet with 3.2 grains of Bullseye, and it's a surprisingly accurate and very economical plinking or small game load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justindad View Post
    Interesting topic. I never would have thought W231 could go in a 30-06. I wonder if True Blue would work too?
    Just about any pistol type powder will work in 30-06-- but some better than others. There are things, however, to worry about. The biggest is that really fast burning powder in the large cartridge makes the round a "firecracker." That is, instead of being like a rocket where the fuel burns slowly from back to front, it all goes off pretty much at once. This means your loads cannot be large because of the pressure spike. Also-- some are more position sensitive than others-- only testing will show. Finally, of course, you have to be very careful to verify every charge, as it is easy to fit in a double, triple or even bigger load. When I use pistol powders I work with a single stage press, charge 50 cases, then shine a flashlight in the cases and check that every single one has the same level of powder.
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    Quote: "Just about any pistol type powder will work in 30-06-- but some better than others."

    The above quote triggered a question in my mind. Are there specific powders (not either rifle or shotgun) useful/designed only for handgun cartridges, or are all shotgun powders useable??
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    Got a Lee 312-155-2R last night
    Cast last night
    Sized/ALOX'd/baked/dried this morning/afternoon
    Shot late this afternoon.
    W231 in 30-06 (for the search engines)

    for calibration only:

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    Just for fun....

    For the search engines:
    - 30-06
    - Model 70
    - Lee 312-155-2R
    - Lyman#2
    - WST Shotgun Powder

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    ADD: Annealing plus Lee FCD and you see the results
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    Pushed out to 100....

    Froggy/Drizzly day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehavey View Post
    Just for fun....

    For the search engines:
    - 30-06
    - Model 70
    - Lee 312-155-2R
    - Lyman#2
    - WST Shotgun Powder

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    Leupold 3x10

    Standard/Raw Case Prep/No Crimp
    Ignition lousy (950-1200fps spread, scattered over 1++" at 50 yards)

    ADD: Annealing plus Lee FCD and you see the results

    Well done and thank you for sharing.

    I have been wondering about using my more”modern” powders when my Unique and SR4759 are gone. I have WST and some other Clays and Clays International. I hear clays gets spooky at the upper end of pustol,loadings so I won’t try it in .30 cal rifles.

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    An old timer gave me a recipe for shooting my 1903 Springfields. I use the Squib bullet mould, and 6.2 grains of W 231. It’s a paper puncher only, but is quite accurate out to 200 yards. I’m setting my sight ramp for 700 to hit the bullseye at 200 though.

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    I use 8 gr. of 231 in both the 03A3 and K31 with the LBT 117 gr. bullet. Makes a great offhand 100 yd. paper punching load. Even has enough horsepower to take out 50 yd. full size chickens.
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