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Thread: Siamese Mauser 45-70 issues

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    Siamese Mauser 45-70 issues

    After about three years of searching, I found a Siamese Mauser converted to 45-70. Shoots like a dream at 100 yards with my reloads (jacketed bullets). Problem is, the chamber is a little oversized and it bulges my brass. Does Starline the worse.

    I was thinking of putting a new Shaw barrel on it. I heard I can have the current barrel “set back”.

    Should I have the barrel set back, get a new barrel, or leave it be?

    If I leave it be, will I be able to load to Ruger #1 pressures with the bulging issue?

    Here’s a 100 yard group using 300 grain Barnes TTSX and 300 grain Hornady HP.




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    Trying to upload brass….


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    If it were me and I had someone good enough to do it I'd probably set it back since it is a good barrel just needs rechambered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancem View Post
    If it were me and I had someone good enough to do it I'd probably set it back since it is a good barrel just needs rechambered.
    Sounds like a plan.
    Or can you reload the brass, just neck sizing?
    As long as you're not going to shoot it in another gun, why mess with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancem View Post
    If it were me and I had someone good enough to do it I'd probably set it back since it is a good barrel just needs rechambered.
    Seems like the way to go. That barrel shoots good.

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    Siamese Mauser 45-70 issues

    Quote Originally Posted by elmacgyver0 View Post
    Sounds like a plan.
    Or can you reload the brass, just neck sizing?
    As long as you're not going to shoot it in another gun, why mess with it?
    BecauseI have two other 45-70’s I load for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood Trail View Post
    Be sure I have two other 45-70’s I load for.


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    Course you do, what was I thinking?
    I have four .45-70s myself.

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    my first instinct was to say, "have it set back!" as is, it's tough on brass and who knows when that may lead to a case rupture. if I were to shoot it at game only and not enjoy it as a shooter, I'd toss the brass and live with loosing 5 - 10 cases a year. it really depends on what you want from it.
    me - ? I'd save that fine barrel and have it set back - rechamber - and shoot the dickens out of it. good luck.

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    I would set the barrel back about one turn and rechamber. Nice rifle! Congratulations.
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    Might get even more help if you hadn't posted this in the "Vintage Scopes" section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marlinman93 View Post
    Might get even more help if you hadn't posted this in the "Vintage Scopes" section.
    Well, this is within the scope of vintage....

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    The 45-70 only has about .023" body taper. You need to take some accurate measurements to determine the how much you will need to set the barrel back.
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    Siamese Mauser 45-70 issues

    Quote Originally Posted by marlinman93 View Post
    Might get even more help if you hadn't posted this in the "Vintage Scopes" section.
    I read Vintage “Rifle” and Range Scopes.

    Got it.

    Scopes vintage though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    The 45-70 only has about .023" body taper. You need to take some accurate measurements to determine the how much you will need to set the barrel back.
    I’ll get my smith to handle that.


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    Nice looking rifle.
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    Set the barrel back and rechamber.

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    I'd set the barrel back and re-chamber as you have plenty of barrel length and it would be cheaper and just as good as a new barrel. james

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    I too like siamese in 4570.. 2" groups at 100y with just about anything U can feed & see with Iron sights... More comfortable than Marlins by far....

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