Inline FabricationLoad DataLee PrecisionReloading Everything
RotoMetals2Snyders JerkyTitan ReloadingMidSouth Shooters Supply
Wideners Repackbox
Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: BP revolver cylinder grease recommendations

  1. #1
    Boolit Bub
    jld_in_IA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    33

    BP revolver cylinder grease recommendations

    Hi all,

    I’m getting ready to break out the BP cap and ball revolvers for a range trip. Discovered I am out of wonder lube and can’t get more locally.

    Instead, I was hoping to get a recommendation on what other people are using for cylinder grease/seal lube. I need something that stays in the cylinder mouth at 100+ degrees. It gets hot here in Arizona. If there is something I could order/make that would be ideal.

    Thanks,
    jld_in_IA
    John

  2. #2
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Atlanta South Metro Area
    Posts
    888
    I seem to recall that a melted mix of Crisco and beeswax will work for chamber mouths, and if you make it heavy on the beeswax it holds up better in hot climes. I don't use chamber lube on my Remingtons or Colts. I cast .454 balls that produce a nice ring of lead on loading and I've had no problems. I use the high-temp synthetic red grease you can buy in small tubs at auto parts stores for the cylinder pins. GF

  3. #3
    Boolit Master challenger_i's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Windy West Texas, between the rocks, and the trees.
    Posts
    559
    Good old-fashioned lard. Works for the cylinder pin and over-ball.
    Rights, and Privileges, are not synonymous. We have the Right to Bear Arms. As soon as the Government mandates firearm registration, and permiting, then that Right becomes a Privilege, and may be taken away at our Master's discretion.

  4. #4
    Boolit Grand Master

    Wayne Smith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Hampton Roads, Virginia
    Posts
    13,655
    Melt some of your lube (simple, crisco/beeswax) into some wool and cut out caliber sized wads and load under the ball. As long as you shoot it in a day you won't ruin your powder. Nothing over the ball. Shoot happy.
    Wayne the Shrink

    There is no 'right' that requires me to work for you or you to work for me!

  5. #5
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Eastern WY
    Posts
    1,970
    Beeswax and olive oil, UNSALTED lard, mutton tallow, UNSALTED butter and beeswax, lanolin and beeswax, most UNSALTED animal or vegetable fats(Crisco) with enough beeswax to get the thickness you like. Petroleum greases and oils sometimes leave a residue that does not work well with black powder.

  6. #6
    Boolit Grand Master Good Cheer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    the Ark
    Posts
    5,273
    Higher temperatures can make it a challenge.
    In the past I've used silicone grease to overcome heat on the Gulf Coast. Nowadays a thousand miles further north I use a home brewed lube mixture with beeswax.
    These days perhaps a cheapest available synthetic grease would be a workable answer for the down southwest heat.

  7. #7
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    653
    I never used grease with my Remington 1858 too messy!
    Instead, I put a card wad over the powder and a fibre wad on top of that before seating the ball.
    I cut out the wads from lubed, fibre 12 gauge wads using a 7/16 wad punch, once the 7/16 fibre wads were cut, I sliced them into 3 which is how I used them.
    The dross I used for wadding in my Kentucky rifle.
    In all the years of using this method, I never had a problem.
    Last edited by ukrifleman; 12-30-2023 at 01:01 PM.

  8. #8
    Moderator


    Minerat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Jefferson County, CO
    Posts
    9,663
    I use a 60/40 mix of beeswax to unsalted Crisco And a green crayon for luck, to saturate a 1/8" felt wad. Then load powder, thin card wad punched from 60# card stock, the felt wad and a 457 round ball over 35 gr of 3F in my ROA. No leading and less mess then greasing. It works in our below zero to 100°+ temperature ranges
    Steve,

    Life Member NRA
    Colorado Rifle Club member
    Rocky Mtn Gun Owners member
    NAGR member

  9. #9
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Nov 2020
    Posts
    180
    What works for me is to rinse out an empty tube of toothpaste and melt the Crisco on the stove then pour it into the tube put the cap on and let it cool when you use it there is always a small amount of liquid that comes out then the Crisco put a little in each cylinder on the ball and smoosh it in with your finger and rotate the cylinder

    When fired the blast will blow away most of what is in the other cylinders and leave Crisco in the grove around the ball and cylinder where it needs to be this also works to coat the inside of the barrel and the outside of the gun just wipe it down with a cloth.

    I have used this Crisco for years hunting Grouse and backpacking for the pin the cylinder rotates on I use automotive grease

  10. #10
    Boolit Master Gtrubicon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Northern ca
    Posts
    547
    I’ve never greased over the ball, I use a 454 ball. Sometimes I will use a felt over the powder.

  11. #11
    Boolit Bub
    jld_in_IA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    33
    Thanks for all the suggestions. I’m going to try the bees wax and crisco.

    Seems like from the reading I’ve done about 5 parts bees wax and 4 parts crisco is a good place to start. If it is too stiff, more crisco. If too soft, more bees wax. And it looks like I could go with up to 1 part lanolin to both soften and make it sticky (keeps it from falling out in cold weather).

    Going to try and brew some up tomorrow. I’ve got casting to do today . Will report back on my results.
    jld_in_IA
    John

  12. #12
    Boolit Grand Master Outpost75's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    over the hill, out in the woods and far away
    Posts
    10,171
    With the BP substitutes Drydene Pyroplex EP grease works well. It is a red color.

    As we used to say in the plant at Ruger, "Use Pyroplex- Rhymes with Pyrodex!"

    With Holy Black Goya Manteca ( unsalted lard) and beeswax 50-50.
    The ENEMY is listening.
    HE wants to know what YOU know.
    Keep it to yourself.

  13. #13
    Boolit Man
    Join Date
    May 2023
    Posts
    94
    What I do and works for me with both of My Pietta Remington New Army Pistols,One a 5.5 inch Barrel and the other a 8 inch Barrel

    I Keep Bullet Lube Made of Beeswax and Olive Oil swabbed in Barrel Always In Barrel never clean it out.NEVER Bare Metal inside of Barrel,Never Bare metal inside of Pistol.

    Never Bare metal on outside of pistol using Mineral oil although it is Just Barely there on the outside.Sorta like just shining the outside of the pistol using just a tiny drop of it on a paper towel then wiping it off with another paper towel.

    When shooting ,Every 6-12 hots swab barrel with The mixture of olive oil and Beeswax with a short section of cleaning rod and swab to keep barrel from fouling to much.
    Swab inside of barrel with beeswax an olive oil mixture after shooting and leave in barrel to prevent rust and negate the need for fouling shots from a squeaky clean barrel.

    Keep mineral Oil inside of Pistol ,no need to clean out

    No rust in Humid areas of North Ms or Ar

    Remove nipples every year and Clean throughly.

    Clean outside of pistol wiped clean with a Little Mineral oil an a paper towel.

    Clean Base pin with paper towel and a drop or 2 of Mineral oil.

    Used a triangle file and sharp edge on it to cut 3 or four VERY shallow notches on base Pin to retain lube ,"Blackie Thomas" on you tube tell's and shows how to do this.

  14. #14
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    2,925
    I make lube sticks from which you can cut lube pills (over the ball). Mix beeswax and paraffin, plug the muzzle of the barrel, and pour the warm mixture down the barrel. When it cools, remove the plug and push the lube sticks out. Cut perfect size lube pills for that gun.
    I also use the vegetable spray PAM (or cheaper store version). Spray it down the barrel, and/or over the loaded balls.
    It's basically what Bore Butter turns into after the first shot. BUT...you must completely clean the gun inside and out - PAM hardens.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails S4020206.JPG  

  15. #15
    Boolit Mold Kentucky146's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2023
    Posts
    23
    20 ounces bees wax to 1 pound of crisco if desired 2 ounces anhydrous lanolin for a sticking agent

  16. #16
    Boolit Bub
    jld_in_IA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    33
    Battis,

    The lube stick idea is great. Should be equivalent to the preformed grease seals that wonder lube sells. I can easily do something similar with 3/8 tubing instead of using the revolver barrel, but either work. Thanks for the suggestion.
    jld_in_IA
    John

  17. #17
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    2,925
    Pouring the lube down the barrel gives the bore a good lubing (is that a word?)

  18. #18
    Banner Sponsor

    lar45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Arkansas
    Posts
    2,830
    I sell a SWISS BPCR Lube. It is a high temp BP lube that will stay in the cylinder through all of the shots.
    Clean up is very easy also as it keeps the fouling soft.

  19. #19
    Boolit Bub
    jld_in_IA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    33
    The results were mixed. The lubricant itself seems to have done well. Problem is that I made it stiff for higher temperatures. On range day, we had a cold snap and I was shooting in sub 50 degree weather. Using the over-ball lube was a bit like mashing up a crayon in the end of the cylinder. I’m waiting for a little warmer day to try it again.

    Thanks all for the suggestions.
    jld_in_IA
    John

  20. #20
    Boolit Grand Master

    gwpercle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Baton Rouge, Louisiana
    Posts
    9,298
    In 1967 I bought first cap & ball revolver .
    No internet , no forums only $5.00 Dixie Gun Works Catalog that had information .
    Cleaned out a large plastic tooth paste tube , or was it shampoo ...don't remember
    but filled that big empty tube with melted Crisco , when shooting ... remove the cap , squeezed the crisco out right onto the loaded ball and smeared it over with a finger, did all six balls , replaced cap on tube and off to the races !

    Probably a mix of 50-50 beeswax & crisco would be better but for the revolver Crisco worked just fine ... and today you can buy empty tubes on the net !
    The tube dispensing works very well and still my favorite way to dispense the ball lube .
    Gary
    Certified Cajun
    Proud Member of The Basket of Deplorables
    " Let's Go Brandon !"

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check