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    There is one unforgivable sin. Did Hitler commit it? Anybody know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Cheer View Post
    There is one unforgivable sin. Did Hitler commit it? Anybody know?
    The “old” me hopes Hitler did commit the unforgivable sin. And that is why i continue to be a poor Christian. A good Christian would rejoice in Hitlers soul being saved…I cannot get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Cheer View Post
    There is one unforgivable sin. Did Hitler commit it? Anybody know?
    Just one???
    1)* Blaspheme the Holy Ghost
    2)** Adding to or taking away from the Book
    3)*** Taking the Mark of the Beast
    4)**** Being given over to a reprobate mind

    *Matthew 12:31
    Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

    **Revelation 22:18-19
    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    ***Revelation 14:9-10
    9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
    10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    ****Romans 1:26-28
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

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    If you can believe Wiki... (Victims of the Holocaust):
    Hitler vehemently despised Christianity, calling it the enemy of National Socialism. According to historian William Shirer, "under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler—backed by Hitler—the Nazi regime intended to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists".

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    Quote Originally Posted by .429&H110 View Post
    If you can believe Wiki... (Victims of the Holocaust):
    Hitler vehemently despised Christianity, calling it the enemy of National Socialism. According to historian William Shirer, "under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler—backed by Hitler—the Nazi regime intended to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists".
    It makes me wonder about the Azov Nazi Brigade fighting for Ukraine. (look it up, but you will have to wade through the censorship)
    Under the little thug Volodymyr Zelenskyy's leadership the country is under martial law, certain church groups have been outlawed and the opposing political group has been outlawed.
    I just wonder how long it will be before the American people understand that they have been hoodwinked.

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    There are no good guys in the Ukraine and Russia war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama358 View Post
    It makes me wonder about the Azov Nazi Brigade fighting for Ukraine. (look it up, but you will have to wade through the censorship)
    Under the little thug Volodymyr Zelenskyy's leadership the country is under martial law, certain church groups have been outlawed and the opposing political group has been outlawed.
    I just wonder how long it will be before the American people understand that they have been hoodwinked.
    You have more confidence in the intelligence of Americans than I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama358 View Post
    Just one???
    1)* Blaspheme the Holy Ghost
    2)** Adding to or taking away from the Book
    3)*** Taking the Mark of the Beast
    4)**** Being given over to a reprobate mind

    *Matthew 12:31
    Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

    **Revelation 22:18-19
    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    ***Revelation 14:9-10
    9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
    10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    ****Romans 1:26-28
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
    Well, yeah, just one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Cheer View Post
    Well, yeah, just one.
    Do you have some thoughts you would like to share?

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    You know after reading most of these posts I find myself thinking about the movie series The Chosen and the scene with the Woman at the well. You can tell she's in a bad way she's had a rough life. She's carrying those Empty jugs of water and the load she's carrying is an illustration of the burden that she's trying to deal with. While Jesus is sitting there she begins to argue with him and all along jesus is hoping and pleading that she comes to the realization that Jesus is the messiah. She has nothing of it, her load is heavier now with the jugs full of water and the Lord starts to peel the layers of her life off. In the end her faith is so strong she could've ran off with 6 jugs of water and not looked back.

    What do you think would've happened if instead of Jesus being there we were there arguing pre trib, post trib, is a day a day or a day a stretch of time? Giants, destiny. I like these scholars but not those...she probably kept walking to next well. It seems to turn into a type of Ford verses Chevy argument and then we get to a point and say "I'd rather push my Ford than drive a Chevy."

    The Gospel is so simple in its beauty. I don't understand every aspect of the Bible but I don't need to either, my faith is sufficient. I get nervous about scholars and people pushing scholars when we all have the same book to look at snd the info is better now because of the dead sea scrolls.

    I'm pretty sure these are stumbling blocks designed to create trouble and push people away.

    I think Roman's has a great view of destiny and thought it pertained more to the events in the Bible. God's grace is for everyone.
    Oh great, another thread that makes me spend money.

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    The Gospel is so simple that a small child can understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama358 View Post
    Do you have some thoughts you would like to share?
    Sure, that the #1 on the list you generated is the one. With repentance we can be forgiven all else.
    That would lead us to the question of what comprises #1. What do you think it actually is?

    I'm familiar with the concept that #1 is the willful act of refusing to allow the holy spirit to speak through you such as is warned against in Matthew 10 (carries over to 24) and Mark 13. I've never been comfortable with such being the entirety of what is being spoken of as blaspheming against the holy spirit though I've seen the matter presented that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioon44 View Post
    The Gospel is so simple that a small child can understand it.
    100% agree...

    That is why I say "it is so simple that one needs the help of an expert or scholar to misunderstand it.

    Back in the Marine Corp. we had the KISS system ( Keep It Simple Stupid)

    Since becoming a more aged Kinder and Gentler version of my old self I have changed the acronym KISS to (Keep It Simple Sanctified)

    1 Corinthians 6:11
    11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

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    Scripture is an endless study;

    Scripture has endless "rabbitholes" that invite further studies. But beware holes in the trail! If you put your front tire into a hole, all depends how fast you are driving. Slowly bouncing along, you bounce over the holes making note to come back later and explore them. Woe is you when you hit a hole at speed, it will flip you over. Perhaps you need to slow down and ask others for a map, other people have been there before, and been flipped on their roof, so you don't have to wreck yourself.

    That is fellowship, we are not made to be alone.

    My favorite part of "The woman at the well" is the time of day. Noon in the desert. The other women drew water at dawn, had a hen party, they likely would have thrown rocks at a much-married woman. So our woman at the well at noon was out when everybody else was at siesta, in the heat of the day, alone. Shunned. She meets Jesus, has no idea who He is, finds out.
    Then what does she do? She tells everybody, back to the group she goes, Saved.

    Am I reading too much into a rabbithole? Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .429&H110 View Post

    Am I reading too much into a rabbithole? Maybe.
    I don't think that is possible. You CAN read something into the Word that is not there....but you cannot read too much into it, depth-wise. Scripture is inspired by God and ALL wisdom is His. If God mentions something, you can glean meaning from it all the way down to the molecular level (literally). Take the parable of the fig tree. The etymology knows no bounds...from its surface meaning to the little fig wasps that pollenate the figs...to the coverings made by Adam & Eve. When you think you got a grasp on it...there's more.
    God is not the author of confusion or the God of the dead...his word is alive and it grows. .....well, it does for people who can get off the milk. I thank God daily for getting me off the bottle, past the pablum & on to something I can chew on.
    He that dasheth in pieces is come up before thy face: keep the munition, watch the way, make thy loins strong, fortify thy power mightily. Nahum 2:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama358 View Post
    Just one???
    1)* Blaspheme the Holy Ghost
    2)** Adding to or taking away from the Book
    3)*** Taking the Mark of the Beast
    4)**** Being given over to a reprobate mind

    *Matthew 12:31
    Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

    **Revelation 22:18-19
    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    ***Revelation 14:9-10
    9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
    10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    ****Romans 1:26-28
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


    You can almost add criminal homicide to that list. ....Almost as in, I don't think you'll get forgiveness for that one HERE. God wanted murderers executed for a reason. You might get forgiveness for it, I am certainly no judge of that....but God is gonna be brutal on that one & I have to think, HIS ear will be open to the victim and their opinion on it before his decision be made. I could be wrong and cannot document that. ....but if I wrong you in any way, I can make it right with you.....unless you're dead...that tends to complicate the process.
    He that dasheth in pieces is come up before thy face: keep the munition, watch the way, make thy loins strong, fortify thy power mightily. Nahum 2:1

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    With reference to Revelation 17, in the passages leading up to the mention of the book of life, do you see yet in the world the drunken woman and the beast she is riding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Cheer View Post
    With reference to Revelation 17, in the passages leading up to the mention of the book of life, do you see yet in the world the drunken woman and the beast she is riding?
    PS,
    Came back to add this link because it touches upon many facets I've needed to think about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Xq0t6pG20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Cheer View Post
    PS,
    Came back to add this link because it touches upon many facets I've needed to think about.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Xq0t6pG20
    Good info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama358 View Post
    Those are very definitive and Bold Statements as if they were facts...

    Was this a personal revelation from the Lord himself to you or just your opinion on the matter?

    Saying that the Bible "was not intended to be taken literally" seems a bit thin without any explanation.
    thats just his opinion cuz the bible says no such thing.

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