Is Bisley a grip type frame or can I order the grips for a standard Black Hawk ?
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Is Bisley a grip type frame or can I order the grips for a standard Black Hawk ?
It's a completely different grip frame.
is this grip really that good? On the inside it's more curved, designed to reduced felt recoil ?Originally Posted by rkrcpa
Do I have to special order a SBH for a scope barrel mount ?
Last edited by castmiester; 12-26-2023 at 03:47 PM.
The fans of the Bisley say it has a more straight back recoil as opposed to the twisting / rotation of the plow handle. If your scope mount replaces the rear sight it should work fine. The only differences between the Bisley and the standard SBH are the grip frame, trigger, and hammer.
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Originally the Bisley was developed as a target gun.... so if I get a non Bisley for hunting I won't be shooting it enough to be be concerned ? But the way you describe it, twisting/rotating would throw off accuracy ? Enough to discourage or it really wouldn't matter ?
The Ruger Bisley is totally different from the old Colt Bisley. The Ruger is closer to the Elmer Keith #5 grip frame. Skeeter Skelton had input on its final shape. Fans of the plow handle say that the rotation reduces felt recoil and places the hammer near the thumb for cocking it for the next shot. Full disclosure, I am a Bisley fan boy. The SBH's I own wear Hogue grips. I prefer that the gun not rotate. Excellent shooting can be done with either grip style. I feel that handguns are personal and the owner should do whatever they like that helps them shoot the gun well. I am a fan of trigger jobs.
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I have large hands and prefer the Bisley grip for heavy recoil management.
Bisley Grip frame
Super Blackhawk Grip Frame
Without explanation, some people like the Ruger Bisley and some don't. I have many Super Blackhawk 44 Mag revolvers, and bought a Bisley. I don't like it, and haven't fired more than 10 shots with it. It's just sitting my my gun safe.
I would highly recommend that the OP find a way to shoot guns with each type of grip. There doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground.
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Agreed.
True, but that's not an easy task. My biggest thing is I have to apply for another permit to trade one in I don't like. Sux.
Is there a gun shop where you could handle both types of gun?
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no not locally, there's not, other wise I would. I'm trying at other shops out of state close by but can't get them on the phone first. I don't feel like driving all over the place just to handle guns without knowing first if they have them in stock.
I own several single actions both in your usual cowboy configuration and Bisley...I enjoy both. Though, the plowshare is my favorite. To me, it has a much better feel cocking. With the plowshare you can use the weight of the muzzle to speed up the cocking. The Bisley has a shorter cocking stroke but, its all hand strength.
When I was a younger man I fancied myself a regular Bronco Billy. The Bisley would have never worked for me then.
Today, I have plenty of time for the Bisley's
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Speed up cocking would be good for hunting.... so you cock as the muzzle lifts? Bisley would be good for at the range and would muzzle rise enhance hammer cocking?
Speed of cooking has never been an issue for me in a hunting setting. I cock the gun when I see or hear a critter coming and put the thumb of my support hand between the hammer and the frame. Plow handle fans say yeah that frame places the shooting hand thumb closer to the hammer. I almost never shot a heavy recoiling handgun one handed.
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Are you pretty well set on a single action? If you buy a Super Red Hawk, they come with brute strong rings and easy mounting. I have had both and I am a SRH convert from a long ago. Mine is scary accurate.
I see that you are in NJ. Can you hunt with a handgun in NJ?
Last edited by murf205; 12-26-2023 at 06:01 PM.
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I thought about the RH yes, cock it anyway, but the double is brutal to break, and I'm not interested in spending more money on a trigger job, so that's why I'm leaning on the BH. But in a dangerous situation the RH would be the way to go. I don't hunt in NJ. PA
My SRH was pretty stiff DA but after a lot of dry firing it is pretty smooth. I Never shoot mine DA anyway since it is strictly a hunting gun as you can see by this pic.
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break in ? Ok, I'll go for the RHMy SRH was pretty stiff DA but after a lot of dry firing it is pretty smooth. I Never shoot mine DA anyway since it is strictly a hunting gun as you can see by this pic.
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