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    any idea on how to keep this round from hurting my middle finger

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    Shooting gloves?

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    What firearm?
    How are you gripping it?
    Have you ever had professional training in shooting big bore, heavy recoiling handguns?

    Not enough info to truly help.

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    On 2 of mine I changed the grips to Houge and it helped a lot.
    (Ruger Super Redhawk and BFR )

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    Last edited by tobywan45; 09-30-2023 at 12:47 PM.

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    Put a band-aid over your middle finger where the triggerguard is hitting, or you can also try to make a finger guard out of one of those rubber thingies they use to count cash.
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    sorry its a Ruger redhawk and no training

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    Shoot 45 Colt until you can manage that recoil. Then move up to 454.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgr View Post
    sorry its a Ruger redhawk and no training
    Super Redhawk?
    https://www.hogueinc.com/grips/ruger...mer-grip-black

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    If it will shoot .45colt get some cowboy loads, give your finger a rest and leave the 454 alone until velociraptor season.

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    A grip filler .....T something.....that fills part of the depth of the trigger guard . Hogue grips are good also . My BH was so equipped when I bought it the Sec 6 not so much . The Sec 6 is a brutal knuckle biter with full tilt heavy 357 mag . While a 265 at 1250 in a 45 Colts isn't really into 454 loads it is well above Colts loads , the BH with Hogues hasn't hasn't hit me yet . For whatever it's worth a 454424 at 257 gr and 1050 will run right through 2-3 feet of hog out to 50 yd . I killed hogs at 7' , 17 , 25 and 47 yd basically dead where they stood .
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    At least its just your finger that's hurting. I've seen what a hammer spur does to the forehead.

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    plain milsurp nomex gloves are more forgiving on the m.f. than my uncle mike's shooting gloves_
    as added bonus, they can save the supporting hand from unwanted burns, if any_
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    Dial back the load until it's comfortable.

    It's worth remembering that the original "comfy" loadings of the .45 Colt were thought of as sufficient to "**** you AND the horse you rode in on", and ammo loaded in that same general category with our more aggressively wide modern meplats will be at least as effective without the need to have the neighbors looking for thunderclouds or recoil turning your socks into cotton puddles around your ankles. The main reason then for full-snort .454, in my opinion, is to flatten the trajectory for longer ranges. For that game, bring a rifle.
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    Ok, a Redhawk, and no training. Got it.

    As noted,, a different set of grips,, or even a glove can help. The grip filler like the Tyler T-Grip may also help.

    As an instructor,, I tell folks all the time; "A handgun must fit YOUR hands." And that is immediately followed with; "A proper gripping method will make a big difference as well."
    Throw in PROPER instruction by a person who knows HOW to teach the proper gripping method for a DA revolver, and you'll be miles ahead of things.


    There is a difference in "fighting" recoil, vs "managing" recoil. A good fitting gun, followed by proper gripping methods can tame a lot of heavy hitters.
    And even then,, there will always be the exceptions. Due to various hand sizes, various handgun grip shapes & sizes, custom grips may be the only answer to help mitigate the knuckle busting. The cheapest & easiest thing to try at that point is simply put a band-aid, with the pad towards the frame over that finger when shooting.
    But I'd start with a different set of grips that fit YOUR hands. And if possible,, find an instructor who can help you.

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    My solution, I sold my 454 and all is well now! No more busted up web between the thumb and for finger. (Freedom arms) and factory loads.
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    ...following the band-aid trend : the synthetic, spongy rubber, similar to neoprene, which is used in construction to cover and insulate water pipes. sold cheaply by the meter in many diameters.
    from it it is possible to obtain protective rings for the m.f._ very similar to the used for scuba neoprene hand gloves, which can be excellent donors, however_
    Last edited by wilecoyote; 09-28-2023 at 11:26 AM.
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    We have a 454 in the family...
    But on my 44 SRH, I polished the bottom of the trigger guard
    It did not look rough, but mirror smooth slides over skin without catching.

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    Don't choke up on the grip. You can't take a high DA revolver grip on a large magnum gun like on a 38/357. Shift your grip slightly lower and try it.

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    I have used electrical tape in place of bandaids and as cushioning to protect my hands. I do not have a 454 but did shoot 44 mag for a while. Oddly my most uncomfortable handgun to shoot
    is a Charter Arms 38 which weighs practically nothing and can be punishing to shoot for extended outings. Tape makes it a lot more comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wgr View Post
    sorry its a Ruger redhawk and no training

    I find the open backstrap Redhawk frame hard to deal with. The Super Redhawk is better. Is this a custom gun or a Super?

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