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    434640 re-run?

    I've been hearing bits and pieces of interest in a RE-RUN of the 434640 44 Magnum (improved) molds.

    This 45 2.1 "improved" bullet design of the original Lyman 429640 280 grain solid nose bullet with the round bottom lube groove. Ruger Blackhawks and Vaqueros, Dan Wesson 44's and S&W 629's all have cylinders that can handle this bullet well and it feeds fine in all the leverguns I've tried it in. It is a little on the heavy side for rifles with a 1:39 twist; however, I haven't experienced instability in my rifles with full power loads out to 200 yards.

    IMO this is the best 44 bullet available for the lever guns and large frame revolvers. (I'm sure Ranch Dog fans would disagree) My Marlin 444 loves it crimped slightly over the ogive with a full case of H322 and my S&W 629 DX Classic shoots this bullet exceptionally well with a case full of 296.

    Here's a link to the original group buy: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=14191



    The plain base version is 0.435" diameter and 280 grains with WW/2% tin and 275 grains with Linotype, size nicely to 0.434" (left) and 0.432" (right) nose first.




    The GC version weighs 270 grains using my 50/50 WW/LINO alloy and 0.434" - 0.435". With the gatorcheck they're 278 grains.

    My alloys produce bullets at mold cavity size so WW alloy bullets should be 0.434" or less.

    How many of you are interested in the plain base?

    How many of you are interested in the Gas Check Base?

    How many want both?

    I'm also open to using a different vendor; we used LEE last time and they were OK but a 12+ month long wait is disappointing.

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    I think I would like the plain base. I wish I could afford both.

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    Well Boomer, If I hadn't just bought the GC version from you, I would want both. So for now I would be interested in the PB version only. I don't like the long wait, but for the price I don't mind it.

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    I need both, I dont mind the wait. I am beginning to like the Lee 6 bangers

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    Probably be in for both, commensurate with cash flow at time of run.

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    I'd be interested in the PB version for my Ruger Redhawk. Lee six cavity mold would suit me fine. I don't mind waiting.

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    I'd be in on a gas-check mold, not into the 12 month wait time myself though. Please keep us posted.

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    I am very pleased with the four cavity brass mould from Old West Bullet Moulds in the recent group buy 44 wadcutter (LYMAN 429352 variant.) If this is his typical quality and delivery time, I want to stick with him for a supplier.

    My choice is a plain base mould. Possibly 1 cavity gas check shank/3 cavity plain base if there isn't too high a surcharge for it. I have the RANCH DOG 265 and my only objection is the gas check isn't necessary for my level of reloads....and they aren't cheap.

    Go for the .435 diameter as pictured by Boomer Mikey. I use wheel weights and size to .432 for assorted pistols and MARLIN 1894s in 44 magnum. Softer alloy will go smaller.

    LEEs aren't that bad in six cavity and the price is good, but delivery time is not acceptable to me. I'm 60 and after almost 40 years working in power plants with coal dust, ash, astbestos, etc, I'm not into waiting long term for anything! Not to offend anyone, but $50 versus a more durable materiel and under four months delivery time...I'll skip the soda at lunch time or smoke one less cigar a day for awhile and have the mould NOW.



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    I've already got the GC version (thanks for letting me in back then, Mikey), so I'd be in for the PB version. In fact, I'd be in for either one, if you only decide to do one, as I'd take another GC version for a back-up mould... (Hard to replace these custom moulds, if something happens to it.)


    Mikey, Depending on how fast this goes, I may have another option for you. I'm working on getting a local company to make custom moulds that are close to the Lee.
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    Put me in for either one but I would prefer gas checked.
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    This has proven to be an exceptionally accurate bullet in my 44 mags. I would have to have another of each myself.

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    Either or both would work in my colection

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    Has this died out? planning on doing something just thought I could wait for a group buy, anyone else?

    Pete

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    I'd be in for the GC version made by Old West Bullet Moulds.

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    If it helps for re-running both designs I'd be in for the gas checked version as well as the plain based version.
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    +1 on Old West Bullet Molds in a gas checked version

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    If this is still alive I would like the gas checked bullet. If made by somebody besides Lee and less than a 12 months.

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    Although I already have a Lyman 429640 2 cavity I would very much be intrested in a 6 cavity mold for the gas check version !

    This thing would be for use in my old slow twist Micro Grrove 444's .

    I am also a Ranch Dog mold advocate ! Matter of fact I have been working with a broad assortment of molds in the 444's from 207 grains all the way to 400 grains ! The Micro barrels can't handle the 400 grainers but they can handle up to 350 grain bullets as long as they're water quenched and pushed pretty well .
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    I could be in for both.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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