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I get the theory that 180 gr boolits are a bit heavy for handguns but so far, I havn't been able to convince my 686 6" that they are. These are 180gr LBT's. the only way to tell is to load them and shoot 'em. As previously stated, be aware of the crimp groove and check for "push through" pressure of the boolit in the throats. That is a fine looking boolit you have cast there my friend.
IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. NONE of us are as smart as ALL of us!
I think this is operator error at 22 yards with my Ruger Blackhawk
You might try Alliant 300-MP. I was able to get 1400fps out of a 10in Dan Wesson.
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I wouldn't use Lil' Gun in a revolver, this thread has members who use Lil' Gun and like it, and people who hold the same opinion as me. Bottom line, heats up the gun too much and is risky for top strap erosion and Forcing cone erosion.
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...Gun-in-pistols
If you want accurate loads near the maximum line, I prefer H110, it's delivered the best accuracy for my guns.
Also 2400 is a very good powder, but didn't deliver the accuracy quite like H110 does.
For Magnum revolvers, I prefer to crimp in the crimp groove. If I can't get the desired accuracy with that OAL, I will sell the mold and try another.Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
That's my 2˘
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“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
― The Dalai Lama, Seattle Times, May 2001
Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook #4 has load data for a Saeco 180 grain boolit that appears to be a WFN with one lube groove. Starting charge for 2400 is 11.1 grains. Starting charge for HS-6 is 8.6 grains, which may be more available. COAL is 1.590”.
I don't have H110 but I do have 296 which I believe is the same thing. I agree with you on Lil Gun and will not approach that...But
One other powder I have seen a lot of around town is Longshot. I watched Elvis today and this sealed the deal and I will be trying this with Longshot for all the reasons he stated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p2SKg2fJks
One of the best things about the 180 gr or any heavy for caliber boolit is that you don't have to run them at warp speed to be effective. They will penetrate into the next county at less than maximum speed. I don't use a lot of H110 or 296 because I'm not too fond of the flash and blast but when you pair them with mag primers, and you should, both really shine with heavies. Very accurate for me. Now I have not tried it but I have read that Accurate No 11 FS is very very close to H110 without the flash, hence the FS standing for Flash Suppressant. I'm sure some others here can shed some light on this powder for those of us who have not used it.
IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. NONE of us are as smart as ALL of us!
Yes H110 is exact same as W296
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...he-same-powder
I've never tried longshot.
I'm not familiar with Elvis.
But a quick search on castboolits doesn't bring up anything negative about longshot in 357mag, so that says something.
this thread comes up first
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...57-Mag-with-CB
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“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
― The Dalai Lama, Seattle Times, May 2001
I love Longshot in bottom feeders. In my snubby .357, it gives more recoil with less velocity than some other powders. If I had rubber grips, I would like the higher recoil.
WHAT? Him and FortuneCookie45LC keep me entertained quite a while with reloading. https://www.youtube.com/@FortuneCookie45LC
Both were useful way back when I was just starting. Once you get past the bunny slopes of bullet casting coating and reloading they lack competence for any true learning or advancement.
Following the writings of members here on cast bullets is a technological innovation in the study and implementation of the cast lead bullet and how to use it.
Paul Harrell has a video about how to identify a fake expert which I feel explains my sentiment in a more articulate way than I am capable of.
I imagine they make a fine video, but I prefer other resources for info on reloading/shooting.
Also, while reloading/casting, I prefer audio only[no computer near that area anyway], so I have the AM radio playing my favorite talker.
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“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
― The Dalai Lama, Seattle Times, May 2001
Longshot is good for what I would call "midrange" loads where Unique is the traditional powder of choice for these types of loads. And there is nothing wrong with a midrange load for a 180 in a 357. The muzzle blast will be a lot less with something like Longshot.
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