You probably used too much tumble lube like everybody else at first. I haven't use my Lyman 450 in 20 years.Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
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You probably used too much tumble lube like everybody else at first. I haven't use my Lyman 450 in 20 years.
I always used a fired case and cut off the case head. For grip I just use a layer of duct or friction tape. For pistol bullets you can find a rifle case of the appropriate size and use it.
Extremely easy to make. Cut a strip of paper from the sales receipt you got from you last visit to the grocery store. Wrap this paper tightly around an as-cast boolit until you increase the size by roughly 0.005”; it can be helpful to wet the paper with spit. Then push that paper wrapped boolit into a brass case. Pull the boolit out, and you now have an expanded cookie cutter. If it is not expanded enough, wrap more paper and repeat. If expanded too much, run through a sizing die and repeat.
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It is good to make a cookie cutter with a long piece of brass. For example, I use a .45 Colt case for my .45 ACP cookie cutter, and a .357 Mag case for my 9mm cookie cutter.
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You might need to drill the flash hole larger so you can use an Allen wrench to push each boolit out of the cookie cutter.
I made one years ago and don't get much use out of it anymore. It left just enough lube on the boolits to make a mess of my seating die. I don't have any silicone pans but I do use the push-through method like tmanbuckhunter. Try it both ways.
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After the initial swirl in an old plastic pet treat container, I dump them out on a cookie sheet lined with baker's parchment paper. Several times during the drying cycle, I glove up and swish them around on the parchment a bit as the lube stiffens. This allows more of the runoff extra TL to build up in the grooves. Ultimately, not much excess left on the paper.
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I learned to paper patch to avoid gas checks .
I made Darrs lube because I had the stuff on hand . Then I fixed so it would stay put on 100° days in the desert .
I bought Lee push throughs because they were the same price as H&I pairs .........
I thumb lubed 25-30,000 bullets and sized them in the Lee dies .
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Search passively for a lube sizer , the old Herters lubesizers come up under $50 and the second generation use the Lyman/RCBS H&I dies . Which is the vast majority of them .
There is a world of difference and it's worth it even up to $125 for the lubesizer (Lyman 450/4500) .
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For me, pan lubing is too slow, especially if you are using a cookie cutter. I expect only to have 3 score and 10 years--6 months left--of life. The less time I have to spend lubing and sizing, the more other things I can find to waste my time on.
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2 things. #1 how on earth can you "bend" a bullet in a lubesizer? an #2 why on earth would anyone want to pan lube; thinking that it is better?
Very easy. Long, BPCR long range bullets cast from tin lead alloys bend in lubrisizers very easily. I've also see bullets cast from antimonial alloys get bent in a lubrisizer if they're too long/skinny. 26 and 28 caliber projectiles are notorious for it.
Neither of my long 6mm or .30cal bullets have ever bent. I guess it depends on how much you are trying to size them.
Doesn't take much. It's less likely with antimonial alloy bullets but I've seen it happen. It's mostly a problem with BPCR long range bullets. The shortest bullet I shoot is just shy of 1.35 at 1.32", cast out of 16:1 or 20:1.
sorry guys. my thoughts are that if you are bending bullets; something is wrong in the sizing process. you might want to size nose first.
They are not actually bending - they are buckling. When a long, slender column is under compression it can buckle before it fails under compression stress.
For rifle boolits, the method of lubing is not a big deal because the number of boolits is low compared to handgun boolits.
I learned on Dad’s Lyman lubisizer and when I got out on my own I tried pan lubing (got decent but labor intensive results). I saved and bought a used Lyman soon as I could for 357/38 boolits. Slowly I added my rifle calibers to my growing collection of lubrisizer dies. I also used Lee Liquid Alox, thinned with mineral spirits and baked the coated boolits in a toaster oven. Worked fine up to 800 fps.
Then I saved and bought a new Magma Star. Best system ever! Nothing is faster. Nose or base first sizing. Checks or not. I started with my handgun boolits and it does all of them now. I still go to the Lyman for small batches (50 or less) of rifle boolits. Anything over 50 boolits is worth changing dies in the Star.
Lubrisizers don’t wear out. They’ll last way more than anyone’s lifetime of hard use. I highly recommend buying them early in life. Do the Star if you’re serious about handgunning.
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I used this stuff and am impressed with its performance. My bullets are for 38 Short and Long Colt.
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