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Thread: Confession at the Our Lady of the Hensley & Gibbs Church

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    Confession at the Our Lady of the Hensley & Gibbs Church

    About 25 years ago (maybe more) I purchased a beautiful 98% S&W 6.5" 5 screw pre-29. As I recall, i paid $700 or so at that time.
    For those of you that know...you know what it is. For those that don't, it is THE gun that S&W introduced the 44 magnum to the world in 1956. They did not expect to sell all that many so they pretty much hand built these 5 screw guns. Well surprise surprise....they sold a LOT of them, and they made a change to the 4 screw model (got rid of the screw in the trigger guard) in 1957 and gave it the Model 29 designation.
    S&W only made some 5000 of the 5 screw guns before upping the production and changing to the 4 screw and giving it the Model 29 designation.
    The guns were sold with a beautiful felt lined walnut case and tools. These original cased guns are bringing stupid money these days and people simply don't shoot them. They live out their days as safe queens.
    I have shot this one a lot, and it is just as perfect as the day I bought it. I don't holster my guns (I keep them in pistol rugs) so they stay in great shape. The biggest problem with this particular gun was that the grips were not original to the gun. OK...no case, no tools, non-original grips....not a collector's gun per se but still a beautifully made handgun. Definitely something that you can shoot and not worry about destroying the value as long as you take care of it.
    The original grips had the big fat "coke bottle" style diamond walnut grips with a slight cutout for the thumb to rest against the grips.
    Because it lacked the case and tools, plus had non-original grips, I bought it as a shooter, and shoot it I have. H&G #503 w/ 8 gr WW231 is my standard mid-range 44 load. Red ramp front sight, white outline rear sight, target hammer/trigger....a great gun.
    I thought I would look out for a set of grips that were original to the 5 screw guns, and looked for some 20 years. Little did I know that these "coke bottle" grips were absolute unobtanium. I watched auctions everywhere for many years with no success.
    Well, one FINALLY came up on Gunbroker, and I would not be denied.
    I watched the auction for some some, and towards the end of the auction, I placed a bid with a maximum that i was willing to go.
    I am almost embarrassed to say but I paid $630 shipped for these perfect grips. That is how much I wanted to bring the gun back to original. It really always bothered me that the gun did not have the original grips. I guess the collector in me kept me looking and the collector in me wanted it done right.
    I am happy to have gotten them, although it hurt to pay that kind of money for grips when the gun shoots just as well with Pachmayr Grippers on it.
    But kind of like buying quality H&G moulds: pay once, cry once, and enjoy it for the rest of your days.
    I feel better now....lighter in the wallet but I feel better.Attachment 312871
    Last edited by FISH4BUGS; 04-12-2023 at 06:11 AM.
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    Good Story, or I mean Bless you my son, you have done well to bring the two together as they should be.
    You could grace us with a pic of the two united

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    I have a 4 screw M29 made in 1973 - I bought it in ‘79 from the first owner. He said it kicked too much, but he only shot Remington factory ammo. I still have the case and all of the accoutrements.

    I was already reloading by then but 44 Special rounds were pretty cheap at that time (around $9.50 for a box of 50), so I put a lot of those downrange. However, I finally settled on 44 magnum cases with 15.5 gr Blue Dot and a 245 gr Keith design put out by SAECO; that’s about all I shoot these days - it’s a one-ragged-hole load. Hotter than the Specials but not nearly at factory levels.

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    Good for you. You worked hard for your money so you might as well e joy it while you can. Good luck with the grips.

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    Have you tried the "Keith Load" in it?
    If you have how did it do?

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    Now you need to start the quest for the fitted case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmacgyver0 View Post
    Now you need to start the quest for the fitted case.
    The last one I saw went for some $1200. Complete with tools and liner.
    Not sure I want to go that route.
    Case = $1200 (maybe)
    Grips = $630
    Gun = $700
    TOTAL $2530
    Value? $4000+ or so.
    You know, on second thought...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by 44MAG#1 View Post
    Have you tried the "Keith Load" in it?
    If you have how did it do?
    No....I just find a mid range load that shoots well and stick with it.
    I use 3 powders for everything - WW231, 296 and 748. Keeps life simple.
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    My wonderful better half doesn't understand how we can spend larger sums of money on boxes, grips, or such stuff,, thinking we are a bit "crazy." Yet,, she also accepts it as a fact of life & doesn't give me any grief either. As she says; "It's your gun, your hobby, you SHOULD enjoy it. And if that means spending money on a box or whatever, go for it!"

    You did the right thing. Now go after the case & tools.

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    Well...how's about a picture of the revolver with the new grips installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Gebirgsjager View Post
    Well...how's about a picture of the revolver with the new grips installed?

    DG
    Let me get the grips here first. I sent the certified check and they should ship within a few days.
    Then I need to get the camera and figure out how to take some closeups.
    Then I need to figure out how to get them onto the computer and uploaded here.
    Jeez....a lot of work for a little gun porn!
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    Good history on the S&W .44 magnum, but…

    The demand for them wasn’t all that great until an actor spoke those legendary words:

    “This is a .44 Magnum. It’s the most powerful handgun in the world”

    A line repeated later with the addition of “it would blow your head clean off.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISH4BUGS View Post
    About 25 years ago (maybe more) I purchased a beautiful 98% S&W 6.5" 5 screw pre-29. As I recall, i paid $700 or so at that time.
    For those of you that know...you know what it is. For those that don't, it is THE gun that S&W introduced the 44 magnum to the world in 1956. They did not expect to sell all that many so they pretty much hand built these 5 screw guns. Well surprise surprise....they sold a LOT of them, and they made a change to the 4 screw model (got rid of the screw in the trigger guard) in 1957 and gave it the Model 29 designation.
    S&W only made some 5000 of the 5 screw guns before upping the production and changing to the 4 screw and giving it the Model 29 designation.
    The guns were sold with a beautiful felt lined walnut case and tools. These original cased guns are bringing stupid money these days and people simply don't shoot them. They live out their days as safe queens.
    I have shot this one a lot, and it is just as perfect as the day I bought it. I don't holster my guns (I keep them in pistol rugs) so they stay in great shape. The biggest problem with this particular gun was that the grips were not original to the gun. OK...no case, no tools, non-original grips....not a collector's gun per se but still a beautifully made handgun. Definitely something that you can shoot and not worry about destroying the value as long as you take care of it.
    The original grips had the big fat "coke bottle" style diamond walnut grips with a slight cutout for the thumb to rest against the grips.
    Because it lacked the case and tools, plus had non-original grips, I bought it as a shooter, and shoot it I have. H&G #503 w/ 8 gr WW231 is my standard mid-range 44 load. Red ramp front sight, white outline rear sight, target hammer/trigger....a great gun.
    I thought I would look out for a set of grips that were original to the 5 screw guns, and looked for some 20 years. Little did I know that these "coke bottle" grips were absolute unobtanium. I watched auctions everywhere for many years with no success.
    Well, one FINALLY came up on Gunbroker, and I would not be denied.
    I watched the auction for some some, and towards the end of the auction, I placed a bid with a maximum that i was willing to go.
    I am almost embarrassed to say but I paid $630 shipped for these perfect grips. That is how much I wanted to bring the gun back to original. It really always bothered me that the gun did not have the original grips. I guess the collector in me kept me looking and the collector in me wanted it done right.
    I am happy to have gotten them, although it hurt to pay that kind of money for grips when the gun shoots just as well with Pachmayr Grippers on it.
    But kind of like buying quality H&G moulds: pay once, cry once, and enjoy it for the rest of your days.
    I feel better now....lighter in the wallet but I feel better.Attachment 312871
    I am soooo happy for you, FISH4BUGS! I, too, wanted coke-bottle grips for my 29, and settled on a knock-0ff. Maybe Altamont? I do not recall... other than I wish I had done what you have done and got the real McCoy! Funny, the battery on my DR Field and Brush Mower died over winter and I lamented to wife -- just day before yesterday -- my choice of a $110.00 DR OR a $60.00 Chinese knock-0ff/Sub? Matter of fact, she brought up "those gun grips you always whine about" (for the record, I do NOT whine ). However, I have the DR battery coming... shoud've done similar with the coke bottle grips.
    Sir -- you done well!!! Enjoy them!
    geo

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    Confession is good for the soul ....

    "Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another , that you may be healed .
    The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working" . (James 5:16

    Thanks for posting ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgerkahn View Post
    I am soooo happy for you, FISH4BUGS! I, too, wanted coke-bottle grips for my 29, and settled on a knock-0ff. Maybe Altamont? I do not recall... other than I wish I had done what you have done and got the real McCoy! Funny, the battery on my DR Field and Brush Mower died over winter and I lamented to wife -- just day before yesterday -- my choice of a $110.00 DR OR a $60.00 Chinese knock-0ff/Sub? Matter of fact, she brought up "those gun grips you always whine about" (for the record, I do NOT whine ). However, I have the DR battery coming... shoud've done similar with the coke bottle grips.
    Sir -- you done well!!! Enjoy them!
    geo
    GEO:
    Thanks for the kind words. I feel your pain.
    I have been looking for these grips for some 20-25 years.
    I saw a pair a couple of years ago that went for some $400+ on GB a number of years back.
    I passed on them and kind of chuckled to myself that someone would pay that kind of stupid money for coke bottle grips.
    Well, I would not let this one pass....and I paid the price.
    But I have them now and I cannot wait to put them on.
    Then the gun is whole again.
    There is something to be said for purchasing quality over price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtarm View Post
    Good history on the S&W .44 magnum, but…
    The demand for them wasn’t all that great until an actor spoke those legendary words:
    “This is a .44 Magnum. It’s the most powerful handgun in the world”
    A line repeated later with the addition of “it would blow your head clean off.”
    Agreed....BUT.....the gun was becoming popular anyway, mainly because it WAS the most powerful handgun in the world at that time.....and you know us guys....more power is better.
    After Dirty Harry uttered those famous lines, demand went through the roof for the 29's. Having a Ruger 44 mag just didn't cut it on the cool scale.
    After I graduated from college in 1975, I went to work running a wholesale guns and sporting good wholesaler here in New England. The S&W's, (most of the entire line) and particularly the 29's, were scarce as hen's teeth. The Colt Pythons were in that same category. I was offered a number of bribes if I would let one or two go but I had bigger customers to take care of.
    It was illegal as all get out but we tied 29's and Pythons to how much dealers purchased in S&W ammo and leather and other crappy items. If they purchased like 10 cases of ammo they would get a 29 at wholesale. They would sell the ammo at almost cost and double (or more) the price on the 29's and Pythons.
    Ah...the good old days.....many years ago when I was young and foolish....now I am just old and foolish.
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    Bless you my son!
    Now go forth and shoot the heck out of the mighty purty 44 Mag.

    (Please post some er 'Picures')

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    That's a nice set of grips you have there. I was lucky enough to know what I was looking at walking through a gun show. Someone had put a pair of Coke's on a S&W Model 58 and was selling it for a very reasonable price! Here's a picture of mine.

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