Do you lube handgun brass with carbide dies?

[ioon44]

I give my brass a light mist of Hornady One-Shot, just makes my 550-run smoother and the expander doesn't drag as hard with super clean wet tumbled brass.

[Soundguy]

I lightly lube brass even if they are in carbide or TiN dies. Sometimes it's just lube on my fingers.. sometimes a lean mist.. sometimes every 5th case.. etc. cases run smoother less heat.. etc..

[hermans]

I give my brass a light mist of Hornady One-Shot, just makes my 550-run smoother and the expander doesn't drag as hard with super clean wet tumbled brass.

After reading most of the posts here......I did exactly this yesterday loading 9mm's on my Dillon XL650. I first loaded about 30 rounds with cases sprayed with a light coat of Hornady OneShot, and than another 30 with cases straight from my dry tumbler as per usual.
To be honest.......I could not feel any difference whatsoever.....so I will will just carry on as before, loading them without any lube.
I do think that if I try this experiment with my 550 while loading 45acp rounds, there could be a significant difference since the 45 case requires a lot more effort to size compared to the rather small 9mm cases?? I will do that and report my finding.

[sukivel]

After reading most of the posts here......I did exactly this yesterday loading 9mm's on my Dillon XL650. I first loaded about 30 rounds with cases sprayed with a light coat of Hornady OneShot, and than another 30 with cases straight from my dry tumbler as per usual.
To be honest.......I could not feel any difference whatsoever.....so I will will just carry on as before, loading them without any lube.
I do think that if I try this experiment with my 550 while loading 45acp rounds, there could be a significant difference since the 45 case requires a lot more effort to size compared to the rather small 9mm cases?? I will do that and report my finding.

I can’t tell the difference on 9, 40, 45, and usually 38/357 on my 550.


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[porthos]

dosen't anyone have anything else to say? its been 10 pages of a mostly useless subject.

[Bazoo]

I tried the Ken Stone method and didn’t care for it. It left too much lube and got the brass all black when sized. I’ll have to give it another go with minimal lube before discounting it since so many others like it.

[czgunner]

I find the Hornady one shot case lube to be ideal for pistol die operation.

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[Kenstone]

I tried the Ken Stone method and didn’t care for it. It left too much lube and got the brass all black when sized. I’ll have to give it another go with minimal lube before discounting it since so many others like it.

Sorry to hear that.
I'm guessing too much lube.
Wrap the clothe pieces up in some paper towels and squeeze out most of the lube...
What lube did you use?
Thanks for posting,

[Bazoo]

Sorry to hear that.
I'm guessing too much lube.
Wrap the clothe pieces up in some paper towels and squeeze out most of the lube...
What lube did you use?
Thanks for posting,

Thank you for the tip. I had used Imperial Sizing Wax on a couple of cleaning patches. I do have a tendency to use too much lube. So you do almost dry?

[LAH]

I find the subject interesting & it answered Bazoo question about is it the norm to lube pistol brass. I agree with Bazoo, it’s not the norm. The only loaders I know personally who lube pistol brass going into a carbide die are commercial loaders who crank out loads of ammo. After speaking to folks like Lee Jurras & a few others I decided to try it myself. You can take a coffee can of brass from a bucket & as you pour it into another bucket spray said brass. When your first bucket is empty & the second one full you pour the brass between the two buckets a few times & let it dry for a day or so. I then fill my collator with the dry, lubed brass.

After years of loading, I can feel the difference even with short cases like the 9MM but you feel the difference much more in the longer cases such as the 38/357. Adding some lube makes a difference & reduces friction most anywhere it is tried.

Is it necessary? No, especially for the hobby loaders. I loaded without it for years. And like I said there is no one I know personally who lube the brass cases like I do except the commercial guys. I have found the thread interesting in reading the way others think & do things & so some of this information is useful to me. And thank you guys for all the typing & thank you Bazoo for the subject.

[porthos]

don't you guys think that 10 pages of this is enough!!!!

[LAH]

I find the Hornady one shot case lube to be ideal for pistol die operation.

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This is what I normally use. Love the stuff.

[Bazoo]

I once sized 450 44 Magnum cases without lube using a Lee Handpress. It took me about a week of working on it, which is one reason I was wondering how common it is to lube pistol brass.

[LAH]

I once sized 450 44 Magnum cases without lube using a Lee Handpress. It took me about a week of working on it, which is one reason I was wondering how common it is to lube pistol brass.

Geez, sore hands. I never had a hand press. I did have a Lee Loader through.

[vrod1023]

I always lube because I've had a number of stuck cases...which is no fun at all, momentum killer.

[murf205]

I usually lube about every 3rd case and the residual lube helps the next 2 slide.

[Bazoo]

Geez, sore hands. I never had a hand press. I did have a Lee Loader through.

Give you popeye arms for sure.

[Bazoo]

I always lube because I've had a number of stuck cases...which is no fun at all, momentum killer.

Howdy, Have you had stuck pistol cases in carbide dies?

[Kai]

Never.

[Winger Ed.]

I've mangled up a few that went up into the die crooked,
but I don't there is enough surface area on the carbide ring
to really get a good grip on a case like the non-carbide ones do.