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Thread: Rossi 92 357 to 38/40

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    From above -
    If you have to have a 38-40 start with a 45 colt and most of the headaches are gone.


    I have tried this route. It may work. Though a spacer may have to be made for sizing, or to turn a little ring of brass in the head area off near the rim. It almost leaves a tiny belt, that from my experience made it so the brass would not chamber.
    The thickness of brass (I suppose depending on brand) in the neck is what I was looking for as I had a chamber (38 WCF) a bit big in the neck area. Being a few thousandths thicker I wanted to try as I was experiencing terrible gas cutting. PSB added to the load cured it with stock Starline 38 WCF brass.

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    I have one in 44-40, it's my 3rd favorite rifle, right after my Uberti 1876 and 73. I'll just sell the 357 and get a 73. Actually I'll probably get a Colt SAA in 38-40. I'll never get one in 45 Colt, that just ain't right.

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    I guess I should have said 45colt rifle and rebarrel it to 38-40WCF.

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwmartin View Post
    I guess I should have said 45colt rifle and rebarrel it to 38-40WCF.

    Bill
    That would work dandy. Same rim diameter

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwmartin View Post
    I guess I should have said 45colt rifle and rebarrel it to 38-40WCF.

    Bill
    You should not have had to spell it out as that was clear from the previous posts. This thread is about converting a rifle to 38-40, not about converting brass.*
    Spell check doesn't work in Chrome, so if something is spelled wrong, it's just a typo that I missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post
    The only 92 that I converted to 357 was the smaller action. This was well over 45 years ago and I said I would never do another one. A fellow came into the shop with just the action so I had to get the barrel, mag tube and wood. There was no internet so finding parts was almost impossible. The mag tube was made from a piece of oil tube. I don't know where I got the barrel blank but it may have been from Douglas. The wood came from Numrich and had some kind of medallion on the side. When I got done I told the customer $200 and he told me he could buy a new rifle for less so I ended up owning it. I ended up trading it for a chainsaw. The biggest problem was getting the feed rails to work .
    The carrier on the two sizes is different.
    yep - as paid work for a client this conversion (small calibre 92 to large) is just a non starter ! -- I need to challenge myself occasionally and this was one of those times but its my gun.

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    Uberti 1873, I have one in 38-40. Great shooter right out of the box.
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    This is gonna sound nuts, but I think the .40 S&W would be a sweet lever action round. It would probably exceed .44-40 ballistics out of a rifle barrel and ammo would be way cheaper and easier to find.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FergusonTO35 View Post
    This is gonna sound nuts, but I think the .40 S&W would be a sweet lever action round. It would probably exceed .44-40 ballistics out of a rifle barrel and ammo would be way cheaper and easier to find.
    Have a mate did a couple in 41 magnum -- that worked really nice

    40 s&w ? would that work ? the 92 action relies on the case rim engaging grooves in the feed rails to elevate the rear end - at the same time stopping the case from popping up vertical in the action (some call stovepiping) . I think I see problems in a 92 action.

    as far as exceeding 44/40 ballistics - its been deliberately weakened years ago to protect old dodgy guns - you can take a 44/40 to full house 44magnum anytime you want in an action that will take it.

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    In the back of the Lyman 45th there are 200gr jacketed 44-40 loads that approach .35 REMINGTON LEVELS.....ONCE in a Rossi was plenty for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FergusonTO35 View Post
    This is gonna sound nuts, but I think the .40 S&W would be a sweet lever action round. It would probably exceed .44-40 ballistics out of a rifle barrel and ammo would be way cheaper and easier to find.
    Cartridge length might be a problem. The 92 has the loading gate to far back for shorter cartridges. Much easier to convert a Marlin to a shorter cartridge. I have done several to 45 ACP and one to 9MM.

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    why not just load up some 357s up .125gn to 180gn and shoot it

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post
    Cartridge length might be a problem. The 92 has the loading gate to far back for shorter cartridges. Much easier to convert a Marlin to a shorter cartridge. I have done several to 45 ACP and one to 9MM.
    I just meant lever actions in general, not necessarily the 92. A Marlin 1894 would be pretty sweet as would a Henry.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check