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    Coated 30 -30

    Is there any coated 30-30 bullets on the market that will stand up to max loadings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parisite View Post
    Is there any coated 30-30 bullets on the market that will stand up to max loadings?

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    None on the Market that I know of... but mine will. 50/50 Pure and Wheel weight with a little tin for fill out. Smokes carolina blue with Sage's gas check. Lee 150 FN and an undisclosed amount of H335 for 2350 from a Marlin 1 in 10 20 inch carbine. 2 to 3 minutes of angle at 100. This dog will hunt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by parisite View Post
    Is there any coated 30-30 bullets on the market that will stand up to max loadings?

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    'Max loading' for what? Whole bunch of difference between the 'max' for a pre-war Win 94 and a Rem 788 bolt gun.

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    30/30 is a 40k caliber.

    Plenty of alloys can withstand that pressure & have been for near a century.

    What are you wanting to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwlongshot View Post
    30/30 is a 40k caliber.

    Plenty of alloys can withstand that pressure & have been for near a century.

    What are you wanting to do?

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    I am wanting to buy online and shoot a commercial coated lead bullet out of a 30-30 rifle at published listed maximum loadings and not get lead smears all in the bore of my Marlin rifle.
    Last edited by parisite; 03-13-2022 at 02:46 PM.
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    Conventionally lubed bullet of Proper hardness and a Gas check & Proper Powder coating will both allow this.

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    I cast 31141, from wheel weights +tin, lubed 50/50 white label, sized .310 with hornady checks. I load 32 grains of 748 which isn’t max, but duplicates factory recoil and poi. Or 28 grains 3031 which is a grain over max from the Lyman manual for the same duplication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraschenbirn View Post
    'Max loading' for what? Whole bunch of difference between the 'max' for a pre-war Win 94 and a Rem 788 bolt gun.

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    It’s my understanding there is no difference between 30-30 pressures from the two guns. 38kcup or 42kpsi. You imply that old Winchester’s won’t handle the pressure. I have interest in an older Winchester though, but not if they can’t handle full pressure ammo. So I’d like to know.

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    Laser cast 311 unlubed can be GCd and PCd by you. MBC just has coated PB, not for top end.
    Last edited by popper; 03-13-2022 at 03:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayone View Post
    None on the Market that I know of... but mine will. 50/50 Pure and Wheel weight with a little tin for fill out. Smokes carolina blue with Sage's gas check. Lee 150 FN and an undisclosed amount of H335 for 2350 from a Marlin 1 in 10 20 inch carbine. 2 to 3 minutes of angle at 100. This dog will hunt!
    Very nice. Have you tried without the GC? How do the results differ?

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    Get some bullets and try them. Report back what you find. I would bet there will be no problem with leading as long as the bullets fit your bore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pka45 View Post
    Very nice. Have you tried without the GC? How do the results differ?
    I only load powder coat with no gas check to ~1200 FPS to maintain accuracy. I have not pushed to see how fast I can get them to go and still stay in a respectable group. They do quite well as a hunting bullet powder coat and gas check. I shot 89 rounds recently and when I cleaned the carbine it was one patch with 'Ed's Red' and then a couple of dry patches and the bore showed 'lead free' and shiny. I am happy with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayone View Post
    I only load powder coat with no gas check to ~1200 FPS to maintain accuracy. I have not pushed to see how fast I can get them to go and still stay in a respectable group. They do quite well as a hunting bullet powder coat and gas check. I shot 89 rounds recently and when I cleaned the carbine it was one patch with 'Ed's Red' and then a couple of dry patches and the bore showed 'lead free' and shiny. I am happy with this.
    I’d be happy with that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by parisite View Post
    I am wanting to buy online and shoot a commercial coated lead bullet out of a 30-30 rifle at published listed maximum loadings and not get lead smears all in the bore of my Marlin rifle.
    Does your Marlin have a Micro Groove barrel? If so will this affect anything?

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    The only thing special you need for top end 30-30 loads is a gas check. I am not aware of any company that both gas checks, and then coats bullets. A number will coat, and a number will gas check, but not both. Bullet fit can be an issue, since coating adds diameter everywhere. A bore rider is often too tight when coated. Most of the coated rifle bullets you see are of a non-bore riding design, probably for this reason.

    If you want coated and gas checked bullets, I'd just buy them from a member here. They will be more accommodating to sizing.

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