This antique Hawken rifle sold at Morphy Auctions. It just goes to show that T/C Arms Company was not too far off.
https://www.morphyauctions.com/james...s-I_sthFvVWD0c
This antique Hawken rifle sold at Morphy Auctions. It just goes to show that T/C Arms Company was not too far off.
https://www.morphyauctions.com/james...s-I_sthFvVWD0c
Nice. Note how deep the rifling is...
I don't think Sam Hawken built that gun. Looks like some of Tom Dawson's work. Tom did a lot of Hawken rifles and English sporting rifles Up through the 1980's.
The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"
Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!
For a simple starter, the screw heads are too good.
Then it was clearly misrepresented in the auction.
Either way, a very nice rifle.
DG
Mighty hard to break a real Hawken through the wrist with as much iron as is in the through bolted tang and trigger plate. Hum?
The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"
Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!
so it is a FAKE, not as posted for sale?
The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"
Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!
You are looking at a photograph of an original Hawken. They built custom rifles.
Lovely rifle, the lock inlet is a thing of beauty.
The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"
Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!
Hardly. I have built muzzleloading rifles for a living for 42 years. That "Hawken" is not any older that the 1970's. There are guys out there that can fake this stuff easy. TK Dawson used to stamp his guns S. HAWKEN all the time, I have seen several. Take this gun apart and you'll see some surprising things.
Thought real Hawken’s had two barrel wedges and steel trigger guards.
No, I mean because the design of the trigger guard on the picture isn't like what they used back then. The forward spur is in the wrong location, and the guard it's self is short. It looks like a Vincent guard. I have never seen an example with a copper nose cap by Hawkens, or anyone else.
The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"
Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!
I have looked at a lot of pics of original Hawken rifles and viewed some in person. I scratch built my first one in 1979. I fully admit I have never held one and I am far from what would be considered an expert. As pointed out this one has several issues that indicate it's not an original Hawken.
Last edited by M-Tecs; 02-07-2022 at 04:44 PM.
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