Well, I went to fire Knight disc extreme, to confirm it was season ready, and my first surprise was hitting 4" to the right, followed by a scope adjustment and more hitting 4" to the right. Kept adjusting and shooting, and lost track of where I'm hitting. After a couple of "sounders" on a larger target, I discover I'm hitting 10" high. Scope's tight, ammo's good.... Time to put it away and regroup... plan on using something else for muzzleloader season. On examination, there are several odd, shiny spots in the barrel channel, so I'm going to have to do some scraping and float my barrel. I may get it done before the beginning of the year,or not, but I found it interesting to be reminded that modern muzzleloaders are subject to some of the same accuracy destroying problems as breechloaders!