Given the dearth of Primers on the market; perhaps the industry producers could sell their "Seconds" at 2019 prices to get rid of them in a productive manner that does not impact their production line sales.
Given the dearth of Primers on the market; perhaps the industry producers could sell their "Seconds" at 2019 prices to get rid of them in a productive manner that does not impact their production line sales.
Mustang
"In the beginning... the patriot is a scarce man, and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." - Mark Twain.
The occasional dud in a bulk pack of cheap .22’s doesn’t faze me, but I’m less sure I’d be willing to accept a bad centerfire round because of funky priming.
But maybe I’m just not desperate enough, since I have primers enough to meet my current needs.
I did see some new production Remington primers at a Scheel's a few months back. Took that as a positive thing.
Since I retired I work part-time at a gunshop. The store policy is that if it's on the shelf the only limit is your pocket book. A large percentage of the first time buyers would also purchase 3 to 5 thousand rounds of ammo per firearm. That has slowed somewhat due to significant price increases for ammo but lots of first time purchasers are still buying ammo by the case.
2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
– Amber Veal
"The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
Artificial scarcity theory only works if the manufacturers get the profit increase, which in the firearms world they normally don’t.
Ive always thought the issue with ammo and ‘price gouging’ is that the wrong people profit.
The manufacturer and retailers still only make their few bucks off of a case of ammo while a flipper can make hundreds with little work and investment.
If the ammo manufacturers could sell cases of 9mm for $500 during panics they could afford to have secondary plants waiting offline just to fill in spikes in demand.
As far as large factory expansions, from an outsider that looks like a foolish investment during a temporary spike in demand.
The firearms world is cyclical.
Anyone else remember 2019?
Ammo every where at the lowest prices in 10+ years.
$180 cases of 9mm shipped, sales and rebates on everything.
CCI had 20% rebates, and their products were already on sale at retailers, discounted/free hazmat or shipping.
2017 was the year of oversupply on firearms. Over supply, lowered demand after the election, low prices and rebates galore.
The next few years prices were still nice and low, the era of $500 AR’s.
Basing your capital investments on short term spikes in demand is a great path towards bankruptcy during lulls in the market.
And historically there will be large downturns in the very volatile firearms market.
Now an investment strategy built around filling a warehouse with ammo during cheap times and selling during panics could work out well.
Imagine investing a few hundred K in 9mm at $150 a case in 2019 (we bought local at that price).
Then selling off at $500-800 per case just a year later.
If your crystal ball worked well it would have been a nice profit.
Just my thoughts.
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$500 ARs?
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...h-7779346.html It IS a daily deal, but they are running a LOT of Daily Deals, and some are actually cheaper. $125.99 for an FDE classic AR lower.
Then...
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...e-7779344.html Another daily deal, the matching FDE carbine length gas system classic upper, complete with BCG and CH.
But need...
https://palmettostatearmory.com/troy...s-r0bt-00.html Troy fixed rear Battlesight.
Minus tax, shipping and receive fee for the lower, price tag is $484.43. Just add mags and ammo
One of the best posts on the subject IMO.
Most will not understand (or want to understand) because they have been caught short and want someone to blame...when they caused their situation by not preparing. What's sad are those who have been around for years and seem to forget the cyclic nature of ammunition and component supply.
Don Verna
At the public range I use, attendance is way down. The Range Officer I talked to blamed it on ammo being hard to obtain. Attendance is down enough they're reducing staffing at the range to only the weekends now.
At some point, does the lack of capacity inhibit growth of the firearms hobby?
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Having been through various shortages through the years I recommend a 5 year supply to be comfortable and a 3 year supply as a minimum. I shoot competitively and a really real slow year I expend 5,000 rounds but most years that is double or triple so yes it is a major investment and it does require sacrifices. My first gunpowder shortage was in the mid-70's when the BATF planned on requiring tagnets in the powder.
2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
– Amber Veal
"The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
Did you guys see the red powder coated bullets? Sure would like to see a vid on the process they use for their volume.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |