Yes or no for pistol.
Yes or no for pistol.
Last edited by txshooter524; 01-07-2009 at 10:01 PM.
are bout all I use at present. I have about thirtysix moulds and have just about completely switched over to TL boolits.
Ranch Dog moulds is in your corner of the world. Try some.
Been running the RD .44 and .50 cal. boolits at 1300 fps in two handguns. Great accuracy and absoutely NO leading.
Also use the .44s in the Puma .44 mag. Shoot great and No leading at 1600 fps.
I have made some 190 grain .360 RDs for the .357 Rossi, will see how they perform when this dang weather clears up some.
Life is good
They do the job.
For the very highest velocities I'd like a little more lube capacity to let pressure get to work, but for 99.9 percent of what I do they're suitable.
I used some form of tumble lube long before Lee made a name for it. Some was alox based and some was Moly based.
Both worked well in standard velocity loads but the alox seemed to smoke a lot!
My real "beef" was the mess, I just didn't get leaving bunch of wet boolits out to "dry"!
Add a few playful cats in the mix and I generally spent more time picking up than I liked.
Made the move to a lube sizer and was real happy. These days you can by liquid alox from several sources but I haven't gone back, this should say something.
If your just getting started and on a "shoestring" budget I see no reason not to try tumble lube!
If you shoot a little you'll always be happy, move into some type of match shooting and you might change your mind.
Just remember: I did start with tumble lube and now have two Stars, two Dillons, 4 Mec's, 3 Tru lines, a Lee challanger and a big ole box of Molds!
Cast, run through a LEE sizer for uniformity, Tumble lube, Load and shoot.
Very fast and convenient. Accuracy of the LEE .38 cal. 148 gr. TL is superb. Same with the 200 gr. SWC in .45. I have other molds that I run through the Lyman 450 and they are accurate as well. But for sheer volume of .38 target loads that I mostly shoot, they can't be beat.
I'm like to try the .45 TL. Truncated cone. I've heard good reports about that also.
I've shot some of them(they were given to me free) and they seem to do ok for me. How about the Lee Sizer?? Is it pretty good..or just passable? Was thinking of purchasing one....or 2 or more if they work ok!
The tumble lube bullets work great for me, much faster and easier than running them through a lube sizer. Skeet028, I use the Lee sizers or shoot them as cast. I have a lube sizer, but the Lee system just seems faster IMHO. Either system works fine.
I usually spray a very, very light dab of Hornady One-Shot case lube on the bullets, use the push though sizer and then tumble lube.
Last edited by Cloudpeak; 01-08-2009 at 03:14 PM.
I only have a couple of the TL designed moulds, but I tumble lube a good deal of the boolits I shoot. I have a lube sizer and use it as well, but for my 30 cal rifle boolits I like to tumble lube them in JPW run them through the Lee sizer to install the gas check, tumble lube them again and let dry. These are not even TL boolits, but I seem to get good velocities and good groups by doing it that way. I may try the lube sizer on my 30 cal boolits some day, but I am getting Sub MOA groups quite often at 2200 to 2500 fps, so why change what works.
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Well, guess I have more stuff to buy Do it ever stop?? I hope not. Thanks for the replies. I keep learnin and one day I might know sumpin....Naw
I have 5-tumble lube molds. A couple of them are RD's and the others are lees. Even the non-gas check bullets (.38 cal) shoot great thru my 1894 at up to 1300 with no leading. Wonderful accurate plinker/light hunting loads.
All these bullets are more accurate than I am. FWIW.
I can shoot as cast and lubed, but get the occasional round that won't or is hard to chamber. Most boolits just get kissed in the LEE sizer, but there are those that take a slight effort to put through. I pre lube with about a short tablespoonful of mineral spirits if at all, for a coffe can full of cast boolits
How about for grease groove bullets? Is it best to tumble lube them, or pan, size, then tumble?
I have some TL boolits but I lube them with Felix. Regular lube works fine with them.
I figured loading oversized bullets wouldn't enhance consistency, might lead to them not chambering and, if they were loaded in higher loadings than I use, might lead to a spike in pressure. I don't know for sure what causes this. Perhaps crud on the mold faces, getting tired and not keeping the handles closed tightly, problems with the locating pins (I had a pin fall out of my 105 gr SWC mold the other day) or just an attack of the mold gremlins. Anyway, for uniformity's sake, I decided that they all go through the sizing die.
After casting several thousand 45 cal 200 gr SWC out of my 4 cavity Lyman mold, I've never experienced this but they still all go through a push through sizer just in case.
I like the ease of tumble lubing, the results I get with tumlbe lubed boo's but do not like the profile of the Lee TL molds that I have tried. For some reason beyond me, they have sharp shoulders on some of their boo's, on the weights that I like anyway. I find that the shoulders catch in my chamber and caused me feeding problems. I went to Lee non-TL molds with conventional/single lube groove and feeding problems went away. I still use LLA on those boo's but sure wish they had the micro-grooves. I am considering ordering a custom mold TC mold with the microgrooves (.452 200gr and .401 175gr). Alox is good!
The instructions for my Lee 401-175-swc say that tumble lubing is superior to the old method of lubing.
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