New S&W .327 Mag.

[S.R.Custom]

All steel, 3" barrel, and comped. Not what I'd pick for a carry gun. This strikes me more as a range toy or house gun for midgets...

Link.

I'm not looking for S&W's stock price to go up any time soon.

[9.3X62AL]

Lose the compensator, add 1" of barrel length, and I'd be on it. Until then, not gonna happen.

Handguns get used for more than just CCW, for cryin' out loud.

[S.R.Custom]

Handguns get used for more than just CCW, for cryin' out loud.

Well then, they needed to put it on an 'L' frame and put 10 holes in the cylinder...

For a company that for so many years was on the forefront of innovation and quality, these days they seem to be little concerned about either... With this thing they have compromised away every desirable characteristic one could possibly want in a new model handgun for the sake of only having to make one gun.

I'm hoping there's more to come.

[GabbyM]

When they offer a 4” without that compensator I'll just have to get one. Would be a great trail gun.

All that said putting a compensator on any pistol or revolver that may be fired at night is FUBAR stupid. 32 mags don't kick anyway.

SKU: 170329
Model: 632 Carry Comp
Caliber: .327MAG
Capacity: 6 Rounds
Action: Single/Double Action
Barrel Length: 3" Full Lug
Front Sight: Pinned Serrated Ramp
Rear Sight: S&W Adjustable
Overall Length: 7 1/2"
Weight Empty: 24.5 oz.
Grip: Synthetic
Material: Stainless Steel Frame and Cylinder
Finish: Matte Black

[jameslovesjammie]

Moonclipped 10 shot N frame with a 5" barrel with a high polish blued finish and I'm there!

Handguns get used for more than just CCW, for cryin' out loud.

-try telling that to any of the revolver guys at THR. If a gun isn't either a CCW gun or a safe queen, it is a piece of garbage. I once basically told I was stupid because I mentioned that a gun they all called "perfect" needed 2 inches of extra barrel and adjustable sights. BY A MODERATOR.

[pumpguy]

New S&W .327 Mag.

Yawn. Wake me when it's over............

[Heavy lead]

Me too, gee a 1000 dollar too heavy pocket pistol. If you want a new Smith you got two choices a midget gun, or a hand rifle that generates 60k psi. What ever happen to the K,L, and N frames. Guess we're stuck with the J and X huh?

[9.3X62AL]

I E-mailed Smith & Wesson on the subject of the 327 Federal roll-out today, staying positive in tone but gently pointing out that a general-purpose small-frame or medium-frame revolver MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA. Heavy Lead, you summed it up nicely.

JLJ, THR can have their own opinions--and welcome. I think we're a more tolerant and open-minded lot at Cast Boolits than what you describe as the conditions prevailing at THR, but I don't want any issues with their administration or membership. Respectful and courteous is my watchword on that subject.

[Bret4207]

Re- THR- I post there occasionally. There are few good guys and the rest seem to be ninja wannabees and tinfoilhat cowboys. There are also a few out and out liars there. Don't worry about them.

How bout a J frame with a 5" barrel in blue? Please?

[GrizzLeeBear]

Why put porting on a gun chambered in a round known for mild recoil but being LOUD? Just make it LOUDER.

Charter Arms makes a .327 in a 4" adjustable sight model, but I've heard mixed reviews of Charter's quality. Still, might make a fun field gun.

A 6" adjustable sight single-six (or even a SP101 but it would be heavy) would be a dandy (Ruger you listening?).

Bret, the 5" J frame would be a nice one, too. If they make more than 50 of them so they don't become an instant "collectors item".

The .327 could be a great field cartridge in a longer barrel gun, but unfortunately it looks like its been pidgeon holed as a defensive round in short barreled guns.

[S.R.Custom]

...The .327 could be a great field cartridge in a longer barrel gun, but unfortunately it looks like its been pidgeon holed as a defensive round in short barreled guns.

That's to be expected, really, for two reasons... One, the .327 was meant to be an upgrade of the .32 H&R Mag to a genuine defensive round. The H&R has always had somewhat of a cult following as a CCW revolver round.

Secondly, in a full size revolver, what does the .327 do that the 32-20 and .30 carbine don't do already? When you think about it, the .327 is a carbine round with a roll crimp.

[Crash Corrigan]

I have a Ruger BH 7 1/2 bbl" .30 Carbine that is just plain fun to shoot with cast boolits. Very loud but pretty accurate up to 50 yds. I have a steel plate with the 3" hole and a flapper that throws up a flag when hit. At 50 yds I can hit the danged thing more often then not with the BH. Of course everybody on the line wants to shoot it because of the blast and flash. At night it really lights up the area!

I just picked up a Charter 2.2" bbl 327 Magnum and I will probably get to shoot it this week if I can get a ride to the range.

I have no idea why I bought it? It does have a decent single action trigger but double action is going to need some work. The sights are decent and the fit and finish of the weapon is good. It is not a Smith or Colt but it seems that the quality is there.

The original owner complained to Charter about the gun shooting to the left and rounds sticking in the chambers. He sent it back to Charter and they tweaked the barrel and replaced the cylinder but since the owner was a true 1911 fan he decided to unload it to me.

I have been dry firing it and yesterday got the RCBS mold from Midway and I cast 80 boolits from the 32-98 GR SWC Mould. They cast really fast and easy with very few rejects from stright ww's.

They miked at .313-.314 and WEIGHED 102 gr. I need to LLA them and then assemble the rounds. I am undecided if I am gonna size 'em thru the Lee 314 sizer of just shoot 'em as cast. I am gonna try both ways and see what works the best.

Per the Hogdon Website with Clays powder a 90 GR LRNFP takes a load of 3.5 to 4.2 gr and should produce 1186 FPS. A 115 GR LRNFP with 3.0 to 3.7 will top out at 1017.

Seeing as I will be running a LSWC of 102 GR I plan to load 3.5 gr of Clays as the middle load. I will make 10 at 3.1, 3.2,3.5 and 3.7 and see what the targets tell me. Starting out at 3.1 and 10 yds on a paper target and working my way up the line to see where the accuracy is.

[Larry Gibson]

I've watched all the TV adds and read the mag articles. As an old LEO who did lots of revolver shooting, carried one for years and studied and taught LEO street survival and studied actual shooting incidents for years I've got to ask; if you haven't got it done with 5 rounds of .38/.357 do you really think you'll get it done with 6 rounds of .327?

I also think the market for this cartridge is in the other direction than CCW. I would like to see it in a revolver with good adjustable sights and a 5 or 6" barrel for a light weight trail gun. I love my original run 6" Ruger Single Six .32 H&R for just that reason. I also have a sweet S&W M30 with 3" barrel in .32S&WL. It makes for a nice "kit" gun. It does very nicely for its intended purpose. If I was really worried about double legged miscreants on the trail I'd be packing my .44 or M1911 but most probably a rifle. However a good small frame in .38/37 would be better than the .327. I do not buy off on the "almost as good as" hype; either it is or it isn't.

The .327 might prove to be a versitile trail cartridge if it ever gets marketed that way. But I don't see it cutting much into the .38/.357 small frame revolver sales. Frankly, if I want more than the .32 H&R I go straight to the .38/.357. I don't try to make a .357 out of my .32 H&R and don't see any advantage to a .327 that is "almost as good as".

Larry Gibson

[Willbird]

I've watched all the TV adds and read the mag articles. As an old LEO who did lots of revolver shooting, carried one for years and studied and taught LEO street survival and studied actual shooting incidents for years I've got to ask; if you haven't got it done with 5 rounds of .38/.357 do you really think you'll get it done with 6 rounds of .327?

I also think the market for this cartridge is in the other direction than CCW. I would like to see it in a revolver with good adjustable sights and a 5 or 6" barrel for a light weight trail gun. I love my original run 6" Ruger Single Six .32 H&R for just that reason. I also have a sweet S&W M30 with 3" barrel in .32S&WL. It makes for a nice "kit" gun. It does very nicely for its intended purpose. If I was really worried about double legged miscreants on the trail I'd be packing my .44 or M1911 but most probably a rifle. However a good small frame in .38/37 would be better than the .327. I do not buy off on the "almost as good as" hype; either it is or it isn't.

The .327 might prove to be a versitile trail cartridge if it ever gets marketed that way. But I don't see it cutting much into the .38/.357 small frame revolver sales. Frankly, if I want more than the .32 H&R I go straight to the .38/.357. I don't try to make a .357 out of my .32 H&R and don't see any advantage to a .327 that is "almost as good as".

Larry Gibson

It seems the ammo makers more and more are trending to wards lighter bullets, this situation leads to the 327 magnum firing the same weight bullets as many popular +p 38 special loadings out there.

Being a NEW cartridge it allows some leeway in chamber pressures we could never have for 38 special, any +p 38 special ammo for the most part has to be mild enough to not take some weak 38 specials apart like a hand grenade.

I for one would welcome 6 rounds instead of five, it is common practice to assign two bullets per goblin, and if there is a third guy I would hate to slight him or cheat him out of his second bullet . The SP101 6 shot looks interesting.

Bill

[Kuato]

"The Carry Comp Pro features the Power Port™ technology to help tame recoil."

BWAHAHAHAHAaaaaaaaa!!! Recoil?! LMAO!

As far as I'm concerned, the ONLY difference between a new S&W & a bucket of ****, is the BUCKET! As far as 327fed, a niche caliber.. 357Mag is by far a better cal, & more readily available. Looks like gun design has peetered out. Now they have to introduce calibers that dont do any better than whats already out there.
Some would argue that the 327Mag has less felt recoil than a 357Mag. Yea, mebeso. But In a shootout, you don't notice recoil anyway (at least I didn't). So to me, the less felt recoil thing is a moot point...
"Per the Hogdon Website with Clays powder a 90 GR LRNFP takes a load of 3.5 to 4.2 gr and should produce 1186 FPS".
9mm Luger with a 90gr LRN will go 1455fps with 231 AND I get 10 extra rounds....New whizbang caliber? NOPE!

[9.3X62AL]

Bottm line--there are more and better calibers for SD/CCW than the 32 Magnum or 327 Federal. The 327 is a MUCH better Kit Gun or trail gun caliber, and should be marketed as such--as the 32 Magnum should have been. Unfortunately, the gunmakers and their Madison Avenue ad consultants are "up and locked" on the subject of CCW, and can't see past that. The 327 will languish for the same reason the 32 Magnum did--it was thrust into the wrong market niche, and that wrong niche was a lot smaller than its more proper tasking.

[mike in co]

well here we go again....
think every statement was already made on the original thread.

why 6 instead of 5...cause it's one more, plain and simple....oh the one more is in the same size gun that has only 5, so why take 5 when 6 is available ?

people that carry 38s can go to a 327, and pick up a round.

people that carry 357's loaded with 38....cause they cannot handle 357 in a small frame, can now have a lighter gun, 6 rounds and a ton more powder than thier 38 loads without the kick of the 357.

for those that carry a 357 and can handle it, but dont like the size and weight....they can now carry more than a 38, without the weight of the 357 gun.

dont see any where where it was marketed as a trail gun. if it survies as a pocket pistol/selfdefense gun, you may then see some larger variations.

my local stores still have not had any in stock from any maker, i do want to handle one.

having said that, i have ordered 4 p64 9mak pistols....smaller flatter, 6 plus 1 , and a tad up from 380 and is a close match for a 38s&w in power.....( more pressure.larger dia bullet)

for all of those with closed minds that say "why", open your mind...there is a niche and a market.


let the opinions begin...

mike in co
and general revolver hater.....
( yes i own a few)

[Kuato]

well here we go again....
think every statement was already made on the original thread.

why 6 instead of 5...cause it's one more, plain and simple....oh the one more is in the same size gun that has only 5, so why take 5 when 6 is available ?

people that carry 38s can go to a 327, and pick up a round.

people that carry 357's loaded with 38....cause they cannot handle 357 in a small frame, can now have a lighter gun, 6 rounds and a ton more powder than thier 38 loads without the kick of the 357.

for those that carry a 357 and can handle it, but dont like the size and weight....they can now carry more than a 38, without the weight of the 357 gun.

dont see any where where it was marketed as a trail gun. if it survies as a pocket pistol/selfdefense gun, you may then see some larger variations.

my local stores still have not had any in stock from any maker, i do want to handle one.

having said that, i have ordered 4 p64 9mak pistols....smaller flatter, 6 plus 1 , and a tad up from 380 and is a close match for a 38s&w in power.....( more pressure.larger dia bullet)

for all of those with closed minds that say "why", open your mind...there is a niche and a market.


let the opinions begin...

mike in co
and general revolver hater.....
( yes i own a few)

WOW! Sounds like the same thing they said about the 32 H&R.. Look how well that worked....

[Bret4207]

well here we go again....
think every statement was already made on the original thread.

why 6 instead of 5...cause it's one more, plain and simple....oh the one more is in the same size gun that has only 5, so why take 5 when 6 is available ?

people that carry 38s can go to a 327, and pick up a round.

people that carry 357's loaded with 38....cause they cannot handle 357 in a small frame, can now have a lighter gun, 6 rounds and a ton more powder than thier 38 loads without the kick of the 357.

for those that carry a 357 and can handle it, but dont like the size and weight....they can now carry more than a 38, without the weight of the 357 gun.

dont see any where where it was marketed as a trail gun. if it survies as a pocket pistol/selfdefense gun, you may then see some larger variations.

my local stores still have not had any in stock from any maker, i do want to handle one.

having said that, i have ordered 4 p64 9mak pistols....smaller flatter, 6 plus 1 , and a tad up from 380 and is a close match for a 38s&w in power.....( more pressure.larger dia bullet)

for all of those with closed minds that say "why", open your mind...there is a niche and a market.


let the opinions begin...

mike in co
and general revolver hater.....
( yes i own a few)

No argument here Mike. Yes, the earth did just stand still! Niche markets are what keeps most everything going. We could all get along very, very well with a 12 gauge, a 22 rifle, an '06 or 35 Whelen and a 357 or 44 or 45. Kinda boring though. I also feel the 327 is being marketed incorrectly as was the 32 Mag, but since I'm not running things all I can do is shake my head in wonder. The 32's are perfect field guns and should be marketed for that niche.

[Larry Gibson]

"The 32's are perfect field guns and should be marketed for that niche."

My point exactly.

Larry Gibson