I have the 12and 410 loader .like is stated. As for data for 12,20,16 I say contact Lee for the data for there Lee Load All and then if you have some odd shells tat you can not find any data for.Jst go with the Lee one and then you good to go.That is what I use.I had the old one for the 12 and then ask for the up to date on and also the one for the 20 that also have the 16 with it.Hope this helps someone.