I’m with Leadhead...........just throw it in the river. One less piece of crap Hornady die to deal with!
I’m with Leadhead...........just throw it in the river. One less piece of crap Hornady die to deal with!
Is the hole in the bullet small enough to use a rod to drive the bullet into the case?
Spell check doesn't work in Chrome, so if something is spelled wrong, it's just a typo that I missed.
I'd now screw the die back in the press and gently tap the primer out with a small punch. Gently, there's a strong possibility that Kroil won't deactivate the primer. Safety glasses and gloves, worse case the primer goes off. Once the primer is out, proceed with a stuck case remover. Good luck.
maybe you could frame it and hang it in prominent place in the reloading room as a reminder to be more careful in the future
Now the DANGER WILL ROBINSON is behind you. I believe the best step forward is to now use an RCBS Stuck Case Remover https://www.rcbs.com/case-processing...r/16-9340.html
to remove the case.
(1) Use the appropriate Drill Bit and drill through the dead primer and base.
(2) Thread the hole in the brass Base using the threading tool in the kit.
(3) Run The base cap and Extraction acre into the Thereaded hole in the brass.
(4) Using a wrench to fit the Wrench head on the top of the Hornady die; and a "Cheater Bar" to turn the screw into the brass case base - slowly extracting the brass case - should bring the Bullet with it. I use a box end wrench as a "Cheater Bar" to turn the screw into the base. Had to do that yesterday with a Nickel Plated 30-06 case stuck in the die. And last week with a Nickel Plated .308 case. I guess I am guilty of being CHEAP and still pick up the Nickel Plated Rifle Brass laying on the ground at the Range - even though I know I am along the way going to get one stuck in the die.
Mustang
"In the beginning... the patriot is a scarce man, and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." - Mark Twain.
Yeah ... not a big fan of Hornady dies. Of the twenty-two die sets I own only three are Hornady. The rest are Redding and RCBS ... and two Lees.
Doesn't appear to be ... I thought it was but now I have a Squirrel Daddy decapping rod stuck in the neck inside the die upside down in my Rock Chucker. Arghhhhhhhh (no fault of your idea - I was already knee deep in this mess before reading your post)
I couldn't get a small punch down in there ... even tried a 16 penny nail. I think pieces of the ruptured and fragmented bullet are blocking access from the inside of the case to the primer.
I thought for sure I could get to it with that Squirrel Daddy rod.
That will not be necessary ... I'll never forget doing this stupid thing.
Last edited by Airborne Falcon; 03-04-2021 at 12:19 AM.
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I have to admit that I'm in the float test it camp. Float test is a technical Navy term meaning to throw it overboard, preferably into deep water.
Kudo's on admitting your new found way to stick a case in a die though.
Robert
At this point this is the best solution. I have never stuck one myself but have unstuck many for friends and it always amazes me the force required to remove them when they become a self locking taper.
Once the bullet was pushed back I would have thought the OP could have pushed and held the bullet back with a small diameter item and shook out the power. Beating on powder is not a good idea. 30 or so years ago a lady was killed a a brenchrest match when they tried to remove a stuck loaded round from a bench gun when the bolt was removed. She was behind it and the case killed her. My friend that lost the thumb was try to remove a stuck loaded 308 round by beating it from the top of the die.
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Danger.
I would just get a new die.
Getting hurt is just now worth it.
Then again, I've done a few things that I knew I shouldn't have.
Lucky
I still have everything I'm suppose to.
Looks like there’s room to grab the decapping rod FIRMLY with Vise Grips and tap it out with a hammer against the Vise Grips. If that’s successful I would drill out the bullet all the way to the neck of the cartridge so that the powder can be flushed out before removing the primer.
Kroil will creep to a one molecule thin film; far thinner than WD-40.
“Pill” has been a cringe worthy word here since I joined. It makes people sound like they just dropped out of the sky from AR-15.com. We use “bullet” to describe mass produced copper condomed projectiles intended for the masses and “boolit” was coined to differentiate cast lead from mass produced.
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At this point I think the safest way to continue would be to slowly hack saw the base of the case off making sure you go slow so it does not get hot. Primers don't always die like you might think. Clean out the case. Put a bit of soldering paste in the case and fill with melted lead. Reverse the case in the press then with a 3# hammer drive the decapper, case and lead out of the die. I have done this a couple of times because of case head separation in the die.
I'd keep repeating the drilling process with increasingly larger bits until you get into the brass. Now turn the die upside down and twist a drill bit in by hand removing as much powder as you can. By now you should be able to fir a lee decapping pin in the top, slide it in and tap out the primer.---- time of RCBS stuck case puller
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- Albert Camus -
Once you had a hole in the bullet you should have opened it up as large as possible with larger drills - at that time you could have taken the die outside and popped the primer off with no risk.
Like said earlier, grab the pin with a pair of vise-grips and tap the decapper pin out. Then you can finish drilling out the bullet then set off the primer (or use the decapper once it fits)
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The same way stuck dry balls are removed from a muzzle loader.
Has the OP tried vise grips? Looks like there’s enough to get a hold on with the right size vise grips.
Last chance before buying a new die, put it in a campfire or other heat source, far away from where it could do any damage and take cover. The primer will go off first and the case will probably be shot out. The die will probably need to be re-hardened, but that shouldn’t be too difficult to do.
If you decide to tinker with it....soak it in water for a couple days. Perhaps you can flatten the powder
This reminds me of the guy that got a cleaning rod stuck in a mosin, then tried a bunch of ideas to clear it and eventually gave the rifle away. Getting ideas from the internet is good, but you need to think about the next 2 or 3 things you’ll do if the current thing doesn’t work. Good lesson learned I suppose.
I won’t give you more ideas, you’ve got plenty, but I will say that the first rule of primers is that
there is no such thing as a deactivated primer.
Be Advised..... It can be VERY hard to deactivate a primer... I've seen where people have used everything under
the sun, and they still go bang. I hit one with a small punch that was in a emty case. Had it in vice and when I
hit it, the primer came back up the punch and embeded itself in my thumb.... BE CAREFUL.
leadhead
JimB is totally right about deactivated primers. WD-40 doesn't always kill primers. Heat will set that primer off and it's less than what you would think. I'm also in the float camp.
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