I agree, primers will end up hiking up to $40 bucks a brick when this is all done and over.
Im hoping Remington primers will be produced again.
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I agree, primers will end up hiking up to $40 bucks a brick when this is all done and over.
Im hoping Remington primers will be produced again.
I checked out G.B. last night just for kicks , and noticed that they have 320 pages of primers listed , so it seems like there are plenty available just at ridiculous prices . It also looks like everyone is cleaning out the old leftover stuff they had around like 40-50 year old primers .
Be safe
I'm certainly not selling anything. He who dies with the most ammo (brass, primers) wins.Originally Posted by Shawlerbrook
Sad but true: the Internet is killing the LGS. Around this rural region the only "gun stores" are either small departments in the back of hardware stores, or home-based businesses. Fella in the next town over who'd been doing that tried opening a new standalone store selling guns and hunting supplies about 2 years ago. Last month I bid on some stuff in the liquidation auction. A semi-big-box business called Woodland Outfitters with two locations north of me gave it up about two years ago. That was the last place on this side of the River that actually stocked reloading supplies. Now I'd have to drive to the Cabelas east of Wheeling to buy at retail. Over an hour each way, and they won't have anything anyway, so yeah, I buy from Powder Valley, Grafs, et.al. when I need anything.
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Not only is the Internet affecting the LGS, but also the big nation chains. When Gander Mountain opened up here, there were 3-5 LGS within 20 miles of me. GM bought all of them out for exorbitant prices and then moved the inventory from the stores into their store. There are now about 2 LGS within 30 to 40 miles from me.
One of my father's favorite statements: "If I say a chicken dips snuff, look under his wing for the snuffbox" How I was raised, who I am.
I laughed way to hard at that. I like it. Think it be my next life slogan. Like how basic ...woman... get those Live, Love, Laugh stickers on the wall.
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Remember: Ammo will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no ammo.
I live about 50 miles from the CCI/Speer plant and my LGS has gotten in primers a couple of times, but they were Federal brand. All the ammo they've gotten in has been either Remington, Hornady, Federal, HSM, or some other small American brand I hadn't heard of before.
I also heard that the CCI/Speer plant has about 100 openings. Talked to someone who knows someone there and you start at $17 an hour, work 12-hour graveyard shifts, and work weekends. That's a young man's game, now. But, you do get to buy ammo and components.
I hear there is a substantial amount of burnout there.
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Our club got order of 209s in recently, Winchesters and Cheddites, 125,000 total. We sell to club at cost, but our cost was $33 on Wins, and $27 on the Cheds. Grafs seems to be holding prices on primers.
Glad you are in your situation, great for you. Really mean it. I'm good where I'm at. Feel sorry for those that aren't. Just a situation that those who aren't prepared are suffering. Not much more I can say.
One of my father's favorite statements: "If I say a chicken dips snuff, look under his wing for the snuffbox" How I was raised, who I am.
After a about the third shortage I learned not to buy for the LAST shortage, but for the next bigger one.
Back in the 80s I had maybe two boxes of ammo per caliber and just picked up at the store what I needed before going shooting. Then we had an ammo and primer shortage so when it eased up I bought or reloaded 500 rds per caliber.
The next ammo shortage lasted not several months but a couple of years and I was hurting again. So I upped my game afterward to a couple thousand per most used calibers.
Along comes 2008 and after a few family shootfests I am scraping bottom again. After that I wised up and increased to ammo and components for at least 5K rounds of most used calibers and a couple thousand of the less used ones.
A year ago I figured that was enough to last me to the death bed. Now, with the new shortage and maybe a 5-6 yr outlook of likely continued shortage (at best) I am once again re-evaluating my inventories. I will be much more prudent when going to the range. Been helping younger family members but may have to tighten that up some. I will start to shift more shooting sessions to .22LR of which I have lots. Reduce my center fire shooting to conserve for unknown duration.
The good thing is we seem to have millions more new gun owners in the last few years. I am willing to endure shortages if it is partly from vast numbers of new shooters. The politics is what makes everything nervous and unpredictable so purchases skyrocket.
When supplies return I think you hardly can’t stock too deep. Whatever you can imagine likely is nowhere near as dire as the next shortage will be.
What shortage?
I learned my lesson last time around.
Rather than put some bucks into silver or in savings, I stocked up on primers, powder, and fmj bullets (.223 and .308)
I cast for all my pistol caliber bullets.
More brass than I will use in my lifetime.
A case of .22's...a lifetime supply.
Like I said........what shortage?
Collector and shooter of guns and other items that require a tax stamp, Lead and brass scrounger. Never too much brass, lead or components in inventory! Always looking to win beauty contests with my reloads.
Sorry to hear that you’ll be leaving us so soon.
l read somewhere that current US Ammo production is app 2.5 billion, 40% rimfire. lt seems Copper has gone thru the ROOF. That's LOGICAL. Lead prices seem to be LOW. No LOGIC there!
Also in same read, twas stated WW2 wartime small arms ammo production 1941-1945 was Twenty Billion Rds
per YEAR
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There are no shortages. There are just buyers who pay more than others or they beat you to the store and buy it while you are home sleeping.
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Aint that the truth. I was in California last shortage and hadn't started reloading yet. You had to be at Walmart by 0400 to beat the line. The line was out the store by 0415. They didn't open the sporting good section till 0600.
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The problem is that I can cast and reload center fire pistol rounds for less than I can buy 22's.
Plus, i don't shoot much .22 anyway.
Why bother?
Collector and shooter of guns and other items that require a tax stamp, Lead and brass scrounger. Never too much brass, lead or components in inventory! Always looking to win beauty contests with my reloads.
Although high and spiking last month or so; Copper is NOT at a historical high. We can look back at prices under the OBUMMER administration and see that Copper was higher in 2012 than is its in 2021. This is probably due to Anti-Mining policies of the Obummers being reactivated under the "Biden it Up" policies which seem to be resurrecting old bad policies.
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