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Thread: Using a Kiln to heat-up/keep molds hot.....

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    Using a Kiln to heat-up/keep molds hot.....

    Did a search, and could not find any info.

    I intend to heat up, and maintain the heat of my molds via "garaging" using a kiln.

    Anyone doing this? Is there anything I should know before I do it?

    Thinking I'll set ceramic tiles set in the kiln to keep the molds clean.

    FYI: There is a small door on the kiln for the handles to stick out of.....so no worries regarding the overheating of handles.

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    Most of us use a covered hotplate to do that but if your kiln will work around 400F you could use it. One fellow here uses a precision lab hotplate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Paso View Post
    Most of us use a covered hotplate to do that but if your kiln will work around 400F you could use it. One fellow here uses a precision lab hotplate.
    It will hold 400 degrees pretty-much on the nose no problem. It's at my ventilated workbench already, so no reason I can see not to use it.

    I suppose molds could be set on top of the kiln as well, for a different level of heat than inside the kiln.

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    I bought one of the lab style hot plates. Numbers 1-10 but does not have temptures in degrees. Before I start casting later this year, going to get one of the infrared gizmos from Harbor Freight. Frank

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    Not sure if you could keep the handles from getting too hot. Even if they are not damaged, you would surly need to use gloves to handle them.

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    I am using an AIM 99LS/D kiln that has a triple door. Handles of my work with glass that hang out the door the same as an Iron mold's handles would, do not get hot. I realize iron is different than glass, but I am not foreseeing a problem with the handles getting hot from the kiln itself.....only from the mold. There is great ventilation in this area.
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    How big a gang mould are you anticipating having to accommodate ?


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    I have a hotplate and put aluminum foil over it for the first time a couple days ago - had the brass mold so hot that it took minutes for the lead to go from molten to hard in the mold! I now leave it at 50% - my only concern for the kiln would be overkill, too hot.
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    I guess I'm going to have to try this hot plate mold preheating thing. seems y'all have crafted it to a fine art.

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    ...imagine the mold is in the paint can (didn’t have a pic with it that way for whatever reason, I think I was done for the day)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcher45 View Post
    I am using an AIM 99LS/D kiln that has a triple door. Handles of my work with glass that hang out the door the same as an Iron mold's handles would, do not get hot. I realize iron is different than glass, but I am not foreseeing a problem with the handles getting hot from the kiln itself.....only from the mold. There is great ventilation in this area.
    In that case, I don’t see why it shouldn’t work well.

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    another hotplate mold oven option. Rotate the coffee can to accept one, two, or zero molds. The clad pan seemed like it was transferring too much burner heat so I have a (cupped/warped) cut to size circular saw blade laying in the bottom to provide a little heat cushion.

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    "I have a hotplate and put aluminum foil over it ..."

    That foil's only gonna last three or four years before it has to be replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackers View Post
    "I have a hotplate and put aluminum foil over it ..."

    That foil's only gonna last three or four years before it has to be replaced.
    I'll be glad if I can keep it around that long!
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    Quote Originally Posted by samari46 View Post
    I bought one of the lab style hot plates. Numbers 1-10 but does not have temptures in degrees. Before I start casting later this year, going to get one of the infrared gizmos from Harbor Freight. Frank
    I've got one of those infrared gizmos...trying to get an idea of what temp the mold liked during casting. I preheated the mold on a coil-type hotplate set at halfway on the dial - no cover of any kind over the mold. The bottom of the mold read somewhere in the 275-300 range and the top was much cooler...180-225. After a few casts and getting good fillout I checked the temp again and it was lower than what I started with, under 250. My pot temp is 750.

    I was surprised at the low temp of the mold and learned they dissipate heat very quickly, but as far as determining that ideal temp for starting to cast, I did not. Simply preheating the mold is enough for me.

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    Is starting out with a hot mould really that important? I start out pouring and dropping as fast as possible, dump the first half-dozen drops back in the pot, and my mould is heated up.

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    Pre-heated as on Post#7, my moulds drop first-bullet/perfect-bullet.
    And as Pre-heat/Pot-heat are simultaneous - very efficient use of life (time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvintx View Post
    I've got one of those infrared gizmos...trying to get an idea of what temp the mold liked during casting. I preheated the mold on a coil-type hotplate set at halfway on the dial - no cover of any kind over the mold. The bottom of the mold read somewhere in the 275-300 range and the top was much cooler...180-225. After a few casts and getting good fillout I checked the temp again and it was lower than what I started with, under 250. My pot temp is 750.

    I was surprised at the low temp of the mold and learned they dissipate heat very quickly, but as far as determining that ideal temp for starting to cast, I did not. Simply preheating the mold is enough for me.
    Infrared thermometers are Not accurate on shiny surfaces. One member blackens areas of his molds to get an accurate read. Birchwood Casy has aluminum and brass black. NOE has a wired thermocouple system too.
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