I'm pretty sure that Veral Smith of LBT was the one who coined the term Ogival Wadcutter.
I'm pretty sure that Veral Smith of LBT was the one who coined the term Ogival Wadcutter.
Old enough to know better, young enough to do it anyway!
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This!
I load what I call the "boat tail wad cutter", H&G 200gr and the collar button 185gr in 45 Colt over 5 gr of Red Dot and shot them for years in PPC competition before I got a suitable 38. They cut a fist size hole in a B-27 , and made scoring a real grumbler. The speed loaders were a bit testy but I worked with it.. Had a ball.... shooting rabbits between Alamo and Lund before it was a paved road. Good times..
IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. NONE of us are as smart as ALL of us!
I have an old LEE 225 grain 2 cavity wadcutter mould in .454 size.
It really shoots well from my Smith an Wesson .45 colt pistol with adj sights and six inch barrel.
The cylinder holes were .456 and it shot patterns with .452 bullets, but shoots well with the bigger bullets.
I use the accurate 43-210W in my 5-1/2" 44 Blackhawk. 6.0 grains of Bullseye is a very accurate and pleasant load to shoot. Whether it's shooting at bulleyes or bunnies, it's a winner in my book.
http://accuratemolds.com/bullet_deta...bullet=43-210W
I shoot WCs out of all my S&W revolvers, except one 25-5 tuned for 250gr RNFP cast and the 57s 41mgs. I got no 41 WC. I don’t like 41s anyway. Bought the HBWC 44 mold and havent used it yet.
The WCs in 44sp, 44mg and 45Colt besides being accurate work good on deer under 50yds.
I got in with USSR on the MP 45 WCHB group buy. I found these casts drop at .457" which is correct for Webley revolvers. Back in the day they were known as the "manstopper" load. Beyond that they can easily be sized down to match the throats of most 45 Colt cylinders. At a cast weight of 230 gr. this makes these boolits very versatile.
I have a LEE mould that might be 410190 WC but the mould is not marked. Sort of a button nose wadcutter. I got it and promptly sold all of my 41 guns. Recently got another Black Hawk in .41 so may now actually get to use it.
arlon just reminded me that I have a 165 Lee WC mold I got from a friend who I believe got it on a group buy here...
Just loaded up some in a .41 Special case with 6.5 grains of Unique...was just over 1000 fps if I recall correctly...
Back when I had a Ruger BH in .45LC I was shooting 255 SWC's loaded hot. I came across an article about a guide in Africa that preferred the .45 BH as his back up gun. He made his own bullets. Hard cast cylinders long enough to reach the front of the cylinders with the proper amount of powder behind them (a lot ). They were something like 300 or 310gn (?). The performance was such that he had used it on lions and had complete penetration length wise.
I have cast a LOT of bullets in practically every general design available through the years. I have modern MP molds, NOE, etc. and well as far back as H&G, as well as Lyman and RCBS, etc.
In my view, Hollow Base molds were developed by the ammo factories so that they would work well in a variety of throat sizes and bore sizes in different makers revolvers. Since I have pretty much standardized on bullet size needed (and reamed revolver throats to optimum size where needed), I have had excellent results with the solid base wadcutters. That includes double ended as well as button nose. I am talking group size off a bench (both off sandbags and using a Ransom Rest) that will give me 1" groups or better at 25 yards. I do not need, nor want, to put up with the complexity of casting bullets in a hollow base mold when I can get those results with a solid base and cast perfect bullets at twice the rate with a multicavity solid base mold as compared to a hollow base mold. I am quite willing to put up with the extra work and time casting hollow points where needed because they serve a real need. Further, I don't need many hollow points in day to day shooting.
Since I have no problem getting the accuracy I need with solid bases, the ease or production, far exceeds any perceived need for me.
Of course, that is just me.
Over the years, I have shot a LOT (typically two and three times a week) and thousands of rounds annually over many, many years. I demand excellent home cast bullets, but ease of manufacture is quite important too!
Just a thought or two...
Dale53
Go to https://www.bullseyeforum.net/, and then come back and name them. The bullseye community as a whole embraces the HBWC for accuracy.
Don
NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
NRA Life Member
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |