Its is open range cattle country where I am and I don't shoot coyotes..period!
they keep the rats and mice population under control.
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Its is open range cattle country where I am and I don't shoot coyotes..period!
they keep the rats and mice population under control.
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atr, that’s birds of prey, foxes, and badgers are for. Non of the animals I listed kill deer or antelope......but coyotes darn sure do! memtb
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ATR can't say I've ever hunted any ranches (including my own) that don't want the coyotes killed! They're always on the short list of targets of opportunity.
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I shot a grouse this year with my 32acp keltec that I keep in my the pocket of my bingo harness. I like grouse meat. If I don't shoot them I at least throw rocks at them sometimes it works.
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I'll be frank, I love me some bird meat!!! I've killed them with rifles and shotguns and pistols and bows and slingshots and rocks. I even made some "snow skippers" that were described in an old trapper's book. I am quite certain that I have spooked elk when getting the birds, but frankly I don't care. I'm pretty successful with big game, and am no slouch with the dinner time game either.
Whichever way it goes, we're eating something that we were hunting for.
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A good friend of mine has about 400 head of cattle. During calving time he brings them into a calving pasture. He has thermal video surveillance on it. In a normal year he looses between $20,000 and $30,000 to coyote predation and no he is not reimbursed for expenses for his loses. Coyotes also take a lot of deer and game birds. I have yet to meet a rancher that would be happy the you wouldn't shoot coyotes.Originally Posted by atr
Lots of mice in the midwest but I have never seen a rat outside of in town or at a dump ground.
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Absolutely not. When I'm deer hunting, I'm deer hunting. I'm being as quiet as I can possibly be.
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Unless using a .22 lr with a CB longs or pellet pistol .........no grouse shooting while big game hunting.
In a heartbeat, but rather hunt them with a shotgun. I don't hunt horns, I hunt good eating deer so worrying about spooking one is not important when there is tasty supper in sight.
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I've shot lots of grouse whilst persueing other game,often shoot a limit of grouse while moose hunting as well as fall bear hunting, often shoot a timber wolf while deer hunting . They're not as noise sensitive as most would believe in my opinion, maybe because there is a lot of work going on in the bush here perhaps.
We know what a shot sounds like, but I'm convinced that deer haven't a clue what the noise means. Maybe where they're heavily hunted they can figure it out. Otherwise it's thunder. I have a range on my land and if shooting ever bothered them I never noticed.
I'd shoot it if I was certain of a head shot.
Absolutely! Always carry a Smith .22 pocket gun. Accurate, not too loud and has provided a lot of small game for the grill. Prefer grouse to venison in any event. Would not shoot if I knew others deer hunters were close.
Even deer that are not accustomed to the sound of gun fire are not alarmed by it unless it is close. The sound of humans walking in the woods alarms them much more. I've hunted a lot of coyotes through the years. It's not uncommon too be watching deer while calling. Unless they are close normally they jerk their head towards the shot and stare for a little while and go back to what they were doing. I've had deer less than two hundred yards not spoked by multiple .243 shots.
One bow hunting technique I use when a lot if you have long fields or grass lands with a wooded stream running through them is to post one person at least a section away (sections are a long long) and have one other person slowly and silently Zigzag through the woods toward the person on stand. The deer will basically graze away for the walker. Then will kept 300 or 400 yards ahead of the walker. They will take a few steps and stop and listen. Makes for ideal bow shots.
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The grouse I have eaten didn't turn me on much. Maybe because it was either spruce grouse or ptarmigan. If I was going to shoot something for the pot I'd rather it be a mammal like a squirrel or rabbit. Maybe a cat. They are very good. I have eaten porcupine but it's a PITA because of the fat. I expect groundhog, etc. would be as well. I don't see any reason to not shoot for the pot if the opportunity presents itself. Someone above mentioned using an S&W .22. That's OK but I have put my faith in an S&W .32. They hit harder, and just as quiet with light loads, and are easily reloadable. Mine is a 4" in .32 H&R mag. but I have some light loads for it that are, I think, quieter than a .22 LR. Keep the velocity below Mach 1.
Grouse cooked over a open fire fond memories , yes I shoot them when hunting deer .
The attack capabilities of a tender young grouse are underestimated by novice hunters. Who knows how many people are maimed or killed each year? So, I do what I have to do when in a tight spot, safety first.
A couple years ago, a grouse was hanging around one of our shooting ranges, It would come out and attack the tires of passing vehicles, and would also come up to a person and peck at their foot. The grouse would have a "What are you doing here?" expression.
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I have not hunted deer or elk for years because of Grouse .
Out of state license less then $100 in Colorado
No worries of meat going bad because of warm weather
season is 2 1/2 month
limit is 3 Grouse a day 6 Grouse in possession
short drive if I want to go for the day
daily shooting and easy to pack
Really best when doing backpacking trip fishing and hunting
Answered yes because i hunt for meat.
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
In pa we can't hunt small game while deer hunting otherwise I would
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