Recommend a 32 or 36 cal flintlock...

[Caswell Ranch]

As to final cleaning, to each their own - lots will depend on what happens to the gun immediately after the last shot of the day is taken.

Personally, I see no need for gadgets or warm/hot/soapy/whatever water or any manner of "cleaning" concoctions. Most of that crap is just that; crap that can/might cause other problems and issues.

How are you cleaning with no need for water. Offer up some insight instead of knocking anything that is contrary to what you like, I get you like flat breech (everything else is stupid), you don't like gadgets or water and soap for cleaning black powder residue, enlighten.

I've done the toothpick in the touch hole and pump water with a tight patch and jag, this is the only way to clean one of my guns as it does not have a liner (original trade gun with flat breech), the screw in flush nipple works great on the Pedersoli . I can't think of a better cleaner than water, the tool I noted above may help somebody trying to clean a gun with pinned stock.

[rfd]

How are you cleaning with no need for water. Offer up some insight instead of knocking anything that is contrary to what you like, I get you like flat breech (everything else is stupid), you don't like gadgets or water and soap for cleaning black powder residue, enlighten.

I've done the toothpick in the touch hole and pump water with a tight patch and jag, this is the only way to clean one of my guns as it does not have a liner (original trade gun with flat breech), the screw in flush nipple works great on the Pedersoli . I can't think of a better cleaner than water, the tool I noted above may help somebody trying to clean a gun with pinned stock.

Those are just my personal opinions, no more or less. Do what you think is best and then that will be the best for you, no problem.

Yes, do I use plain tepid tap water for bbl and lock cleaning. It takes me less than 15 minutes to fully clean both bbl and lock.

[RU shooter]

If were me and actually it is as I'm gathering parts now I'd go with the bigger of the two your considering . I wanted a 36 but the more I thought about things I went with a 45 as it's the smallest I can use for deer in my state if I wanted to leave the 50 at home and I know I can down load it to 30 grs or so for paper killing ,saving a few grs of lead isn't an issue I'd consider and recoil is still barely above zero .

[Caswell Ranch]

I’m looking to get into flintlocks. I’m wanting recommendations for a good starter rifle in 32 or 36 cal. Will be used to woods bumming and backyard targets. Occasionally small game but usually targets of opportunity.

Thanks

Wheelgun,
The link below may be of interest to you when picking .32 or .36 . Not a flint gun but good info (Crockett is a great little gun).

http://www.namlhunt.com/mlsmallgame.html

[Wheelgun]

Thanks to everyone for all the great info. I’ve got a lot to study and learn lol. It’s all greatly appreciated.
I’ve always wanted a flintlock. I’ve got cap’n’ball longguns, pistols and revolvers, but something about at flint calls to me.

That little Crockett looks sweet and would be ideal if it was flintlock, and more accurately fit the name...

[rbuck351]

I guess I got lucky. About 5 years ago,I found a used TC muzzle loader with two 32 cal GM barrels. One is flint and the other is cap both with the proper locks for $300. It shoots right at 1" with either barrel at 50yds. It's a blast to shoot with either barrel and very cheap as well. 20grs of 3f and about 45 grs of lead gives a fair amount of shooting for a couple of dollars.

[Wheelgun]

Rbuck351- that’s a heck of a deal.

[Wheelgun]

How difficult is it to rebarrel a flintlock? I found a local guy with a Pedersoli flint Kentucky rifle in 50cal, but besides really wanting a 32 or 36, the bore is pretty rough. The price is good, and stock is very nice, but has tacks all over. Kinda native Americans styling.

I just don’t know if a rebarrel is feasible...

[RU shooter]

If Pedersoli made the smaller caliber barrel in the same size it wouldn't be too difficult, also an option to having it relined to a smaller caliber . But it maybe be more cost efficient to get a new pedersoli or other rifle in the caliber you want

[Ural Driver]

I've done traditional front loader hunting....and I do enjoy the fit and feel of those rifles. But would like to ask, is anyone aware of these smaller calibers being available in the more modern styles?
Having a .32 caliber in the style of a TC would be appealing to me.

[Beerd]

There is a weight difference to consider going from a .50 cal down to .32 cal in that Pedersoli barrel.
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[rbuck351]

Yeah, my TC has a 15/16 barrel and it is quite heavy.It must have started life as a 50cal.

[fiberoptik]

H & A underhammer.
[URL]http://www.longrifles-pr.com/underhammer.shtml

Crocketthttps://www.traditionsfirearms.com/p...hardwood-blued[URL]

Kit available: https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/category/Rifle-Kits

Mine’s a Dixie poor boy; caplock in .32, cherry fullstock. Also a CVA squirrel also.32.

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[sharps4590]

Of the two calibers, I've used both of them extensively over the 48-49 years I've been shooting muzzleloaders. I suppose about 20 years ago I settled on 36 cal. for no other reason than I just like it better. Now, that I'm pushing 70 instead of 50, arthritic hands made that a fortuitous choice.

I have and have had both flat and patent breech. I clean with near boiling water and force it through the bore and out the flash hole. I've experienced no difficulties with either over that same period of time.

[Wayne Smith]

I chose to go .40 caliber, A weight swamped barrel, AAA Maple stock from Tennessee Valley Muzzleloaders. Mine is a poor boy, iron furniture, no patch box.

[fiberoptik]

You can use buckshot in the.36.
Cheap shooting.


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[Caswell Ranch]

You can use buckshot in the.36.
Cheap shooting.


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1 1/2 buck works very well in a .32 , 1,280 ball to the jar it's not worth casting.
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Su...uctinfo/SBK15/

[AntiqueSledMan]

Hello Wheelgun,

About 35 years ago I thought I wanted a Flintlock, I also wanted a long gun, at the time I thought why not a .32?
Well I purchased a Pedersoli Pennsylvania Flintlock in 32 with a 42" barrel, in the past I'd been shooting 28" 50 calibers.
There was a huge learning curve, and I never did get the Flintlock to fire consistently.
I removed the lock and the stainless vent, built a drum & installed a nipple with a percussion lock & never looked back.
I still have the parts to put it back, but never have.

AntiqueSledMan.

[fiberoptik]

1 1/2 buck works very well in a .32 , 1,280 ball to the jar it's not worth casting.
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Su...uctinfo/SBK15/

I never knew!


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[sharps4590]

I believe you will be happy with and enjoy that rifle, much wiser choice than production rifles. My 36 cal., flintlock squirrel rifle is a Southern Mountain and I have always really liked that style. Ain't no fly's on TVM. I think they use either Siler or L&R locks. You shouldn't have any difficulties with either, I never have. The 40cal. I've played and worked with about all of them from 32 to 62...except 40. It always struck me as sort of a red headed step child but I've never talked with anyone who had one that didn't like it. One of these days I'm going to order that Track of the Wolf Bedford County kit in 40 cal. and build it.