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Thread: Carpenter Bee Load

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    Carpenter Bee Load

    Well after reading the last thread on making bee loads with walnut media I just had to try it out. I loaded them up in .38 special cases with 1.5gn of bullseye, a card wad, fill the rest of the case with media to about 1/32 from the case mouth, another card wad and then a healthy crimp at the case mouth. The shot pattern was fine but the primers backed out, probably from lack of pressure to expand the primer case. So how to fix that problem. Up the powder charge or something else such as hot glue the case mouth after the wad?
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    Drill the primer holes larger

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    Yep, use a 1/8" drill and enlarge the flash holes in the cases you'll use for these loads.

    When a primer explodes (and lead styphnate is an explosive), it drives the primer out of the primer pocket and back against the pressure plate. Normally, the pressure generated by a standard regular load would be enough to drive the case backwards and reseat the primer into the pocket. However, loads without that pressure can't do that, which is why cases used for blanks, wax bullets and ground walnut hulls need to have a way to relieve the pressure of the primer so it won't back out of the pocket.

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    Clever! What's the max range? I use air pistols on house flies and wasps. You can get close enough

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    I use grits. Similar setup. I dont use a card wad. Grits over powder and drip some wax on top.

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    Cream of wheat is your friend here ,I did rim the primer hole just a little,don't use magnum primers
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    Have shot several thousand of the walnut media loads in 38 spl, 357 mag, 45 Acp and 45 Lc but have never drilled out the primer holes or put a crimp on them, just used a overshot card pressed into the brass over the walnut media and used clear finger nail polish to seal them. I only crimp the shot shell loads in 45acp,9mm and 380. But have never used Bullseye either.

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    This is a fun thread! I use my case forming loads for rifles for the same thing, using corn cob media and toilet paper for an "over shot card." With the larger cases and powder and "shot" charges I've occasionally knocked them down, dead, at about 15 ft. I might have to try a revolver this summer. 45 Colt should make a dandy bug gun...
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    I didn`t drill out flash holes for bee loads in my 44 mag contender.

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    Thanks John Boy. I have plenty of those for snake management. They are just a little too much for carpenter bee management, and costly. The lead shot loads could possibly damage vinyl siding and give the wife further ammunition against me that shooting bees is ridiculous.
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    I have used a badminton racket to ‘swat’ ‘em. Good PT, couple years ago I swatted 600 plus. Wasn’t as many the next year.

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    I've used 410 shotgun, half dose of powder & millet bird seed load...Fun Stuff...unclemikeinct

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    A bit out of place but I used to have trouble with a neighbor's dog coming over to crap in my yard. I yelled at it and chased it off but it came back. So I took a 20 ga shotshell, poured out all of the shot and almost all of the powder. Put the wad back and filled it with either popcorn or dry beans. Either will work. Aim for the back end. Twice was all it took to make him stay away.

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    Ahh...similar to the old "rock salt" loads. They also worked.
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    Shooting bees in the city limits of the nearby town would get the gun confiscated and a night in jail for the shooter. When it comes to carpenter bees and hornets, I prefer bee spray with a 25 foot range. LOL.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check