35 Remington or .30WCF in Commercial Mauser

[Lead&Diesel]

Been throwing around the idea of building a .35 or .30/30 on a Zastava M70 rifle I have. Its currently a 30/06, BUT; .30/30 and 35 Rem feed and cycle with no issue. Also no issue ejecting.

Yes I know .35 whelen, 358Win, etc. Are more capable/practical however I'm interested in building something more one of a kind and and unique. Reminiscent of the Winchester 54/Model 70 era rifle.

I have a plethora of .308-.311 molds and am constantly on the hunt for more (if you're selling shoot me a PM &#128521 not so much on the .358 front currently.

So my question is, which of the two would you pick and why? Deer and small game largely being the intended targets. And being as I have family (or am about to) have family across roughly 6 states any suggestions are welcome.


Also- if anyone has ideas of a good SA bolt gun to build off of I'm open to suggestions. I know the Z70 long action isn't exactly optimal.

[ulav8r]

The .35 would probably be easier to get to feed, but either would be great. The 35 would also be more effective on large(deer and up) game. Both can be loaded to higher levels in a bolt gun than factory ammo, allowing more versatility than normally expected from those cartridges. The 35 could be stretched to near 358 capability and the 30/30 could approach 300 /savage power.

[444ttd]

9.3x57 9.3x57 9.3x57 9.3x57 9.3x57 9.3x57


i'd say go with the 9.3x57. you can take a 8x57 case and neck it up to 9.3mm. do some fire forming and waa laa a 9.3x57 case.

[tctender]

Of the two i would go with the 35 Rem. It would be better for larger game and you could still load it down if you wanted too.

[para45lda]

I would go with the 35. Shoot pistol boolits for practice

[Eddie Southgate]

.35 Remington will work easier and in my mind is a better round . Plus it will give you a good legitimate excuse to buy more molds . Howa 1500 actions can be bought brand new from Brownell for reasonable .

[pietro]

Been throwing around the idea of building a .35 or .30/30 on a Zastava M70 rifle I have.

Its currently a 30/06, BUT; .30/30 and 35 Rem feed and cycle with no issue. Also no issue ejecting.

So my question is, which of the two would you pick and why?

.30-30......

Why ?

Because you apready have a .30 cal barrel that might be able to be set back & re-chambered, if the barrel contour/re-inforce has enough meat to git 'r done.

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[RU shooter]

Well you already have the 30-06 so there's no real reason to turn it into a 30/30 other than just because . Yep I'm a 35 Rem guy especially in a bolt action but again if the action can handle a longer round i.e. 358 or 35 Whelen , 9x57 they would get the nod no sense in limiting yourself to smallest of the 35's yeah you can load up the 35 Rem some in a bolt gun but much easier to down load the bigger brothers . Brass is easier to make for the others too from common 308,30-06, 8x57

[Wayne Smith]

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i'd say go with the 9.3x57. you can take a 8x57 case and neck it up to 9.3mm. do some fire forming and waa laa a 9.3x57 case.

If you are gonna go 9.3 leave it full length - 9.3x63

[samari46]

The model 54 has a box magazine similar to a model 98 mauser. However it has two steel plates one at the front and the other that have been crimped in place. The box itself is not attached to the trigger guard although the follower and follower spring do atttach to the trigger guard like a standard mauser. The bolt head has two nibs so the flat face on the barrel has to gave a counterbore for clearance of the two nibs. The inside of the counter bore next to the chamber is where the bolt headspaces off the 30-30 rim. I have a 54 action in 30-30 dated 1928. Frank

[Texas by God]

A 30-30 bolt action is just a neat thing to have. I'd love to see pics of the 54 Winchester bolt and magazine to see how they feed. My 1916 Oviedo feeds well. The 54 is the high bar; but i couldn't offord one much less a Remington 788. So I went the combine parts into custom SR Mauser route. You could easily load 30-06 ammo to feel like 30-30 in the Zastava, but where's the sport in that?"
Its cool to match up similar vintage actions and cartridges- that were never offered together. The .35 Remington dates to 1900 or so and its a good one.

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[centershot]

If it were me, I'd go 30-30. Why? Cuz I've always wanted a 30-30 boltgun! And, I'd re-barrel it to a 24" with a sporter taper and a 1-12 twist. Enough twist to shoot jacketed 170's and run 2000+ with boolits. At some point I'd probably re-chamber to 30-30 AI.

[rockrat]

35 Rem. Would be a great deer round in a bolt gun and you could shoot pistol bullets/boolits at lower velocities, for small game.

[444ttd]

If you are gonna go 9.3 leave it full length - 9.3x63

what!?!? why i oughtta........

[kaiser]

With the Mauser a .35Rem cartridge should "feed" better out of the magazine over the 30/30 because it is "rimless" versus the .30's rim. The .35Rem was designed for 33,000psi; you could far exceed that maximum, as long as the case can handle it. Although the mauser action wouldn't allow as many bullet choices as a .30/30, it should give a measurable amount of power (ft. pounds, or kinetic energy) increase over a .30 cal. bullet at the increased velocity one can get in a mauser action with "pointed" bullets and higher pressures. My .02

[wolfwing]

I went with the 35 Rem on a 95 Mauser action.
In your shoes I would go with a 9x57 using a .358" 14 twist barrel.

[dh2]

I any toying with the idea of building a 95 Mauser in 35 Rem, .358 Boolits are plentiful , right now on my work bench is a 95 Mauser going to be barreled in .450 Bushmaster, easy for me to work with because I cast for the .460 S&W already

[JWFilips]

How does one fit the bolt face to hold a 30 WCF rimmed cartridge?

[Texas by God]

How does one fit the bolt face to hold a 30 WCF rimmed cartridge?

My 1916 Oviedo (93 Mauser) bolt face had a small peninsula ( for lack of a better word) bisected with the extractor slot. I milled it outward from the inner edge until the 30-30 rim fit dead center. The extractor had to be beveled a bit on the bottom edge and thinned from the back of the claw to fit.

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[357Mag]

Lead & Diesel -

Howdy !

The single shot bolt gun produced in .35 Remington is greatest numbers would be the Remington XP-100 ( single-shot bolt " handgun " ).
XP-100 in both .308 bolt face and .223 bolt face have been used to provide donor actions for custom rifles.

The newer XR-100 would also work, provided it had a .308 bolt face.

And of course, one could always configure a bolt action repeater to accept a single shot filler "plug" in the action's magazine well opening.
Remington actions like the XP-100, M-700, M-7; and 40X can accept any of a large array of aftermarket triggers.

Wichita ( to my knowledge ) can still make available their single-shot "Mini" ; which is a shell holder style bolt set up.
These also accept Remington pattern triggers/trigger hangers.


With regards,
357Mag