9X57 Buck

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That is the way to do it, SB. No matter what the trajectory of your bullet, a hunter needs to know what it is and to know what limitations it causes. I choose to use a higher velocity, even though it makes only a small difference in POI out to 200 yards, just because the powder coating makes it easier. I also choose to shoot deer through the chest cavity to avoid meat loss and it was only my failure to hit properly that caused the meat loss in this kill.

I also shoot my loads out to 200 yards just to insure I know the POI. Unfortunately, I only have a 100 yard range on my property and have to load up everything and go to the hunting lease to shoot farther. It's a little bit of a bother but is still fun....and, I can assure myself what the load is actually doing beyond 100 yds. I have no intention of shooting at a deer beyond that distance with cast although I probably could stretch the effective distance a little if I wanted. When you get beyond 150 yards or so, regardless of having a slightly higher muzzle velocity, bullet drop increases too rapidly with small increment of distance. This isn't a problem when clanging steel and there is plenty of time to consider bullet drop, but in hunting conditions it can cause problems getting a killing hit. As I stated, The deer was rapidly walking across the easement and I had to make a snap shot. If he'd been farther away, I would have had no time to consider trajectory and made the necessary adjustment in hold over.

Again, it was my poor shooting that resulted in the unnecessary meat loss. My intent of posting the pictures was to illustrate the effectiveness of a cast flat nose. There were two surprising results from that experience. First, that the deer went as far as he did considering the damage done. He crossed the remainder of the easement plowing the ground with his chest. He was going down a steep hill which helped his progress. I assumed he would be dead at the treeline of the easement. Somehow, he managed to make it another 100 yds or so after leaving my sight. Second, despite the massive damage all around it, the heart was untouched! I grilled it Friday evening and it was excellent. The rest of the meat is still aging and I'll cut it up tomorrow afternoon.

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It is amazing how far they can go! Did you get the pump station unhooked with that hit or at least leaking from bone schraptnal? Lots of pre ground meat there. Moving target, Good shot!

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444, where I live now nearly all my shots are within 75 yards. Last deer I killed was at about 30 feet, with a 54 cal., Jack Garner, Leman flintlock.....I think...lol!

most of my shots are under 50 yards. i shot an eight point at 10-12 feet with my ruger #1 in 270 win with 130gr nosler bt. i shot him in the shoulder and it was lungs and heart soup. the bullet fragmented apart when it hit the shoulder bone. there was no exit hole, the fragments stopped before the inside ribs on the exit side. i had to throw entrance wound shoulder away. it was big reason why i went to cast.



btw, the buck ran about 20 - 25 yards after the shot. there was no snow or blood trail in the thicket. i "found" him just before i could step on him. lol!!!

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It is amazing how far they can go! Did you get the pump station unhooked with that hit or at least leaking from bone schraptnal? Lots of pre ground meat there. Moving target, Good shot!

No sir! The heart was unscratched! And, I had to cut it loose from the plumbing to get it out.

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this is what 200gr rcbs(.359") fn gc and 2400/dacron looks like at 100 yards.......

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444, is that the 180 gr RCBS? My version weighs 188 gr with my soft alloy, gas checked and powder coated. They are very accurate in all my 30 cal rifles except, strangely enough, my 03A3 and it's 4 groove barrel. Taking a deer with one of them is my next goal, cast bullet wise.

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444, is that the 180 gr RCBS? My version weighs 188 gr with my soft alloy, gas checked and powder coated. They are very accurate in all my 30 cal rifles except, strangely enough, my 03A3 and it's 4 groove barrel. Taking a deer with one of them is my next goal, cast bullet wise.

no, its a 200gr rcbd fn gc in 35 cal. i sent my 30-30 lever action to JES Reboring and it came back a 35/30-30(its a 3 groove rifle). i put on a new williams fp aperture sight too. my load is a 200gr rcbs fn gc with 20.0gr of 2400/tuft of dacron going 1726fps. i shot one doe at 25+/- yards and she ran about 20+/- yards until she gave up the ghost. i was impressed with the wound channel. the entry wound was right behind the front shoulder(1/3 of the way up) and its exit wound was 2 or 3 ribs were broken right behind the exit wound. its lungs were smashed and its blood trail, which wasn't needed, was like a man with two ketchup bottles were plastering trees while running threw the woods. the alloy is lyman #2 and just a smidge of tin.

i use a 30-40 krag and 165gr ranch dog(173gr is act wgt). i use 10 coww and a smidge of tin. i and my son have killed around 13-15 deer and in every case, the deer didn't run after the shot. my oldest son holds the record(me and two sons) on how far that it was killed while using cast boolits, it was 173 yards(using a laser range finder) when he killed the doe.

i also have the 30 rem and the 7.65x53(.311") in 30 cal that i have kill a deer with.




http://www.35caliber.com/

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no, its a 200gr rcbd fn gc in 35 cal.

Well, I guess it would help if I paid closer attention. Sorry, just had 30 ca on my mind and didn't notice '0.359"'!

I am familiar with JES's work, having two Marlins rebored to 38-55. Excellent work on both of them.