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Thread: 7.7 jap

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    Boolit Buddy
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    7.7 jap

    Anyone here shoot/load cast for a 7.7 Jap in a type 99. I ask as it’s Medford rifling, and chrome lined. 2 things I’ve never worked with before and I was curious what people found worked.

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    Boolit Master


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    Messed with one for a while with fair results. I used modified .30/06 brass which is suppose to be a no no and I used .308" bullets. First off, get some 7.7 Jap brass and eliminate the brass hassle. Then, get a bullet that will fit. They make good plinkers. Normally, rough as a cob but they shoot pretty well and you can bring home the venison with one if you tweak it a little. They're strong as all get out. Now, the 6.5. I ain't going there./beagle
    diplomacy is being able to say, "nice doggie" until you find a big rock.....

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    Boolit Buddy
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    I have two. They slug .3165” and .3160”. I size too .318”.

    The chambers are quite oversized. I get a fair amount of bulge just above the case head. I would discourage the use of commercial 7.7x58mm brass. I’ve used Norma and the brass that Hornady uses for their factory 7.7 loads, it’s just too thin. What I do recommend is forming your brass with heavy walled military 30-06 brass, it bulges out in a gentle curve. I’m much less concerned about a case head separation with the heavier military brass.

    I have used a few different molds. Most are 8mm molds that I size the bullets down to .318”. They all shot fine. A Lyman 323470, a plain base Lee 324-175-1R, and an NOE 323365.

    I now have an NOE 316-155 PB/GC combo mold. It drops at .3175” and I powder coat it wich adds a bit of size.

    Both of my rifles struggle to reliably feed round nosed bullets. They cycle the best with the pointed NOE 323365.

    I use bullseye, Herco, and 2400 in most of my loads. Any load that will work in a .303 British in safe in the 7.7x58mm.

    JM

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check