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    Daisy Red Ryder

    Maybe this should have gone into Equipment Reviews but here we are.
    Decided to get out my forty year old Pact chronograph just to dust it off and make sure it still worked. My buddy, Ken, had never seen a chrono and was curious about it. Took the machine over to his place and decided to check out our BB guns. He and I both have classic Red Ryder BB guns. His wife has the carbine model with a blue stock and fiber optic front sight. Although none of them came close to the advertised 350 fps, they gave results unexpected. Four different examples were tested. All data was derived from ten shot strings over Pact 24".
    30 year old "Diamond Edition" Red Ryder. 185 fps avg velocity SD 4.3 fps
    New Carbine model 268 fps avg velocity SD 1.9 fps
    New Red Ryder (Kens BB gun) 265 fps avg velocity SD 3.3 fps
    New Red Ryder (my BB gun) 263 fps avg velocity SD 2.4 fps
    These toys are being used to topple inch and a half metal targets at 25' with surprising accuracy. The newer guns seem to be superior in performance. Shooting is shooting and a good shot is a good shot. If your not having fun, you are doing it wrong!
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    I tested my airguns over an old chrony. Both shot under the advertised fps. I have a Diana 430L and a Weirauch HW50. both shot 100fps under the advertised
    "Shoots up to FPS". Still more fun than not shooting. Even if a can of H&N pellets are nearly $14/500 it beats the heck out of not shooting.

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    I plink at cans in the house during the winter. With my red rider. Good fun.
    One round at a time.
    Member of Valley Gun & Country Club. Elysburg Pa. And Zerby rod and gun club.

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    Air guns were important early training for my boys growing up. Now grown and gone and responsible gun owners carrying on the sport they started with there pellet guns.

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    I have used my rws 1 177 single cock air rifle to verify the chronographs set up before use testing. So I know im set up right and getting the correct readings.

    One thing with the red ryders and most air rifles is the lube on the seals can make a difference. A drop or 2 down the barrel of a medium weight oil like 20 weight and left to work in for a few minutes can make a increase in velocity, remember on the upper ends air rifle to use a non dieseling oil.

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    That Red Ryder started something with me that ended up with me owning 17 lever action rifles. Must have killed hundreds of chipmunks and red squirrels as a kid.

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    Shoot often, Shoot well.

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    My first Daisy was a mod# 105. It was made with out a forearm, it was just metal at the front. I always wanted a Red Ryder. One day a friend of the family gave me is sons Red Ryder BB gun. He had went off to collage and did not want it anymore. I think I was 13 when I got it. It was a lot of fun back then. I wish I still had it

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    Growing up on a dairy farm the Daisy BB gun was a great cattle and dog training tool. Still is. And before you ask, YES- I have been shot with one - so I know exactly what it feels like. Red Ryders are an American staple.

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    You had a disappointing childhood if you didn't have the occasional red ryder BB gun war with your friends back in the day! That said, I better not see my boy pointing one of those at somebody!

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    My Dad bought me my first Daisy: it was a 99 target special Thought me how to shoot receiver sights and interchangeable globe front with inserts!
    Actually use that combo today on many of my mil surps!
    As a child I was a dead eye shot on poor song birds which I now regret! I did get a lot of them
    For a B B gun that thing was accurate!
    " Associate with men of good quality, if you esteem your own reputation: for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " George Washington

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    I had both a cheap Daisy and a Red Ryder as a kid. The cheapy was the more accurate of the two and I fed my cat more than a few starlings with it. She knew what the BB gun meant and would sometimes snatch the bird out of the air before it could hit the ground.

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    I always thought that my mod#105 had more power than the Red Ryder. Gosh talking about this makes me want to buy one of each. It brings back a lot of great childhood memories

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    Always liked 3 in 1 oil, but Mom's sewing machine oil really made that Red Ryder shoot hard for a while.
    I'll bet you can get 350 fps with a few squirts of that!
    Old Red always shot so hard I thought it would shoot itself apart.
    Try it with yours!
    The 3 in1 was thin, but that sewing machine oil said it had graphite in it and it was like the lock oil they used to sell.
    Mom said it always made her machine run better and she'd hide it from me.

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    I got my Red Ryder for my 14th birthday, my Rem 870 for my 13th. One was a tool, one was a toy. Dad wanted me to be mature enough for the toy. I made a pellet trap and shot at paper plates, even took and old bird shot bag and made a sand bag. I think my Dad and his buddt shot that thing more than I did while we cast and barbecued.

    We moved to a 10 acre farm a few years later, that Red Ryder got much more use on lizard hunts and such. When I moved out, I think I left it hanging in the closet. Many years later, it had been moved to the garage then the barn, then back to the garage, think tin building that leaked some. My Red Ryder is in pitiful shape after that abuse. Stock needs refinishing, metal works are worse than patina. I an half tempted to buy a newer Daisy, rob the innards and refinish what I can, probably powder coat it.

    A dozen or more years ago, I was visiting my parents around Father's day, and we went shopping for gifts. He appreciated the usual Father's Day gifts, but never expected to get a Red Ryder and a box of copper plated BBs. He always kept a 22 lr bolt gun by the back door for gophers, and the Red Ryder for other things. They moved off the farm (still own it) and into town. The Red Ryder is hanging on the Garage wall like some kind of trophy. He always looked at gun shows, found something that would look good, but turned out to be roo good to hang so it went in the safe. Hang one on the wall was Mom's idea, she was decorating. Funny that the one he hung was a Red Ryder, just like the one his Dad gave him when He was a boy, and why I was given mine. Decades later, the circle came around.
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