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    Looks like the color is wiped off of the outer perimeters of the primers. Maybe as suggested, just color at the beginning or end of a roll of anvil brass?
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    I use Federal match primers. The anvils are various shades of red, at least in my current brick. It could be end of coil color or some other type of coloring put on before the punch and form die. Some of it wears off in the processing and some does not. Regardless it does not seem to affect performance.

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    Ok, I opened the next flat and they are all gold no red.

    Still no response from CCI but it has been the holidays. I wonder if the factory has been running thru the holidays.

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    I got a message back from CCI asking for pictures and lot number. I supplied the requested pictures and lot numbers and after a week with no response I asked what was up and still no further response.

    Disappointing not unexpected.

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    I use mostly CCI or Winchester primers.
    I noticed a few years ago the color had changed in one or maybe both of them.
    Like Winchester changing from a Chrome outside finish to a Brass colored one:
    I noticed, but didn't give it a second thought.

    I was priming a few hundred rat gun cases tonight with CCI SR.
    They're fairly new (few months old), and yellow.

    I guess its a dye in one of the chemicals/compounds,
    or maybe they just got a better price on the paint- or whatever they seal them with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger Ed. View Post
    I use mostly CCI or Winchester primers.
    I noticed a few years ago the color had changed in one or maybe both of them.
    Like Winchester changing from a Chrome outside finish to a Brass colored one:
    I noticed, but didn't give it a second thought.

    I was priming a few hundred rat gun cases tonight with CCI SR.
    They're fairly new (few months old), and yellow.

    I guess its a dye in one of the chemicals/compounds,
    or maybe they just got a better price on the paint- or whatever they seal them with.
    Yes, but it is only about 50 out of a box of 1000 and they were all in a sleeve of 100. Seems like a defect to me.

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    Here is some info I have found:
    Inside primer (anvil) color and size
    Winchester SPP are Red
    Winchester SRP are Green
    Winchester LRP are ?
    CCI SPP are Yellow Brass
    CCI SRP are Yellow Brass ( about 10 years ago they were red)
    CCI LRP are Yellow
    Federal SPP = Green
    Federal LRP are

    There are two sizes and four types of primers. Pistol primers have thinner and somewhat softer primer cups than their rifle counterparts. Small pistol and rifle primers utilize a cup 0.175" in diameter, while large pistol and rifle primers measure 0.210" across.
    Small pistol and rifle primers are the same height. Large rifle primers are taller than large pistol primers.
    Be Aware that Remington Small Rifle Primers,. Are not for anything much Hotter than 22Hornet... 222 and certainly 223 will cause Rem SRP to "pop" right at the Edge.

    Source http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ht=anvil+color
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    Small pistol and rifle primers are the same height.

    Large rifle primers are taller than large pistol primers.

    Three seconds to find this chart on a Duck-Duck-Go search.

    https://ballistictools.com/articles/...d-diameter.php
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    "I agree with dtknowles that is poor quality control, even if it might not change internal ballistics meaningfully"

    I would call this just selling as much as they can make knowing the color makes NO difference in anything.

    Could even be like the end of the roll on our printer labels at work that showing a blue line to tell when to replace.

    Its just the foil over the pellet if they did not fire that would be quality problem this is just packaging.

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    I sent them an e-mail and they asked for picture and lot code. I sent them the picture and lot code. The location where they said to look for the lot code was wrong but I still found the lot code. They did not get back in touch so I sent them another message and still no response. I am guessing they don't have an answer. These primers might be older than the person answering the e-mail.

    I am sure they will go bang just fine but I was using them in bench rest ammo. I have bench rest primers but I was saving them for after I was done initial testing.

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    One Thing not Noted... Be Aware that Remington Small Rifle Primers,. Are not for anything much Hotter than 22Hornet... 222 and certainly 223 will cause Rem SRP to "pop" right at the Edge... not usually under the firing pin even!!!
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