Profanity

[MrWolf]

Saw some list from a university that they want certain words banned like "picnic" because they have twisted it to mean servitude of blacks or some other bull. These folks need to be canceled, not the words. Unbelievable.

[xs11jack]

People that curse are not smart enough to use proper language, so they go lazy, I mean to learn proper English and so they curse. So that reveals their intelligence level.
Ole Jack

[RU shooter]

Yep I see it on other gun related sites I belong to . It feels like I'm listening to a group of school kids . It's very nice to come to this site and have conversations without the profanity . My entire life I've never have heard my dad swear not once in my 52 years . I remember way back when I was in my teens and I cussed within ear shot of him . He snatched me up right quick and told me in very clear terms that he has to hear that talk all day at work and he will not hear it in his house . I've worked with iron workers and fab shop guys all my life and have heard and said it all with them in the shop , after we all walk out the doors when the whistle blows that all stops . Shop talk stays at the shop .

[Four-Sixty]

I find I'm more comfortable talking with someone is profane.

Some times someone who is more restrained about their use of words is concealing their true intent.

I wish sometimes we could ban people for their misuse of their, there and they're.

[TCLouis]

I can line up many of the words we are discussing the lack of here with the best of them, . . . .

but, . . . .

BUT

Thoroughly enjoy the lack of such language on this site!

[Lloyd Smale]

The art of profanity is the ability to call someone an SOB, without them realizing it for a day or two.

Come to think of it, I hear more profanity from women and kids than men. A couple women I know could cuss the paint off a barn. One of my neighbors comes to mind. She came From Spain years ago, and her first job was in an Alaska logging camp. To say her grasp of English was greatly influenced would be an understatement.

my experience as well. Jesus once said. LET THOSE WITH NO SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE

[No_1]

Quick statistics:

Below is the data for the following infraction: Inappropriate Language - Language Censor Violation

1st offense - 418 infractions issued
2nd offense- 55 infractions issued
3rd offense - 15 infractions issued

500 infractions for language may seem significant but considering the other statistics:

Member count - 51,373
Total Threads - 248,987
Total Post - 3,673,430

I realize we don’t catch every instance but with only 500 infractions from ~ 3,600,000 post spread out over 25 years I believe most members feel the same way as I do when it comes to language which is why this place is the best on the planet!

[smithnframe]

*** you talking about Willis?

[joethereloader]

i agree

[Wayne Smith]

It is gratifying to see so many unsolicited comments that confirm the CB Forum's policy of "No bad language at any time." I do not have much time in as a moderator, and since profanity wasn't part of my previous membership, I had to learn the rules myself. They are not complicated, but have one peculiar quirk, which I shall explain.

Like I said, the policy is "No bad language at any time", but a Censor Feature exists in the Forum software that will screen out it's use. If you write a prohibited word such as the "F bomb" in all it's four letter badness, the Censor Feature will automatically screen it out and replace it with four asterisk....****. That is not considered a violation. But, if you attempt to get around the Censor by writing the F followed by 3 asterisk to represent the letters you are attempting to disguise it is considered an attempt to bypass the Censor and an infraction is issued. Many have been issued for this violation.

O.K.--so do not ask me to explain this reasoning, because at present I do not understand it. It's no bad language at any time, but it's o.k. if you write the bad language and it's censored out. It's not o.k. if you attempt to disguise the word yourself, which is sort of self-censorship, and have it be censored out.

Far better to express youself without profanity. Profanity really isn't descriptive about the subject, if you think about it, and run a few possible examples through your head. All it may do is to add emphasis about how you feel about a thing or subject, but lacks descriptiveness, such as blue truck, or bad engine. **** truck doesn't really tell the reader anything except that maybe you don't like it, which you could say in plain English.

I'm glad that so many are agreeable to the Forum's profanity policy. For those members who just "signed up" but didn't bother to read the rules.....well, now you know.

DG

Let me point out one exception that I ran into years ago. There really is a file that is appropriately described with a 'bad word' and always has been. That is the only example of the censor over controlling that I have found.

[ioon44]

It has been my experience that vulgarities take the place of intellect and lack of thought.

Yes I agree with this.

[Brass&Lead]

I do not believe in hate speech - there is only speech. I am 100% for free speech. Free speech does not infringe on the rights of others. If you want to demean my parentage to my face, it is your right. To do it in a public form may infringe on my rights if it is not true. Rough language and actions do have a place in a civilized society and should be applied appropriately.

Civility transcends the law. Civility is more that politeness and courtesy in behavior or speech, it is a way of life we all should strive for when dealing with others of a similar mindset.

There may be times in our lives where civility has no place. “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” Many on here have been / are those men. In conflict the goal is to vanquish the opponent and do so while preserving body and soul.

[Handloader109]

Agreed, Hate speech laws in the US should be totally unconstitutional. But like everything else, we move towards socialistic CONTROL.

But on topic, I've found that I tend to unfortunately fall into whatever is around me. When I worked in rough crowd with a lot of profanity, I likewise responded more promptly with profanity.
When I worked in more 'genteel' areas, I found I was man out and would work towards curbing use of some words.
Unfortunate that I would do this, and I recognize it... Guess I'm somewhat human too.

There are situations where some folks just can't help it, or don't want to, or feel it makes them equal or better, I don't know, but I do cringe occasionally.

[Monobill]

I'm new to this site and happy to see the family focused discussion. Refreshing.

[Hickok]

I'm new to this site and happy to see the family focused discussion. Refreshing.

Monobill, good to have you here!

[bedbugbilly]

I don't think it could be said any better than your comments Hickok.

I think we've all been guilty of using the "King's English" at times - we're all human but that doesnt't make it right. Like you, many of us have worked around crews, etc. where the un-necessary works flowed. I remember working as a supervisor in a small plant where most of the employees were woman when I was in college. That taught me a good lesson that the swearing and cussomg were sometimes worse than any I had heard come out of a man's mouth - so it isn't a gender thing.

I have a Facebook page - never post on it but I set it up as two gals that are like daughters to us post pictures of their kids, etc. - and of course you end up having "friends" - other people that you know that want to have access to your page. My wife has read off some o their posts and I couldn't believe some of the things they post (foul language) - to the point the I have lost all respect for them.

Spouting off and using foul language doesn't make a man a man - or in some cases a woman a woman - the ability to be a gentleman or a gentlewoman and express yourself in a civil manner is what shows the true character of a person - to get respect you have to give respect.

Hickok -hope you had a good Christmas holiday and have a safe and Happy New Year. Let's all hope that 2021 is better than 2020!

Jim

[Squeeze]

use em or not, either way I dont support censorship. I can abide for things like this forum, (your house, your rules) but in general, in public, free speech is still a right. It may expose you in any number of fall short of the mark ways, but its a right, and I wont stand behind any censorship

[Burnt Fingers]

I speak fluent Marine, and I'll take my knowledge and grasp of the English language against anyone.

Those saying anyone who curses is lacking in intelligence are posturing, perhaps they feel insecure?

[dangitgriff]

Frustration brings out the salt of the earth in me.
Personally, if you can’t find a better word to express yourself, quantity trumps quality every time!

[Lloyd Smale]

I do not believe in hate speech - there is only speech. I am 100% for free speech. Free speech does not infringe on the rights of others. If you want to demean my parentage to my face, it is your right. To do it in a public form may infringe on my rights if it is not true. Rough language and actions do have a place in a civilized society and should be applied appropriately.

Civility transcends the law. Civility is more that politeness and courtesy in behavior or speech, it is a way of life we all should strive for when dealing with others of a similar mindset.

There may be times in our lives where civility has no place. “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” Many on here have been / are those men. In conflict the goal is to vanquish the opponent and do so while preserving body and soul.

Problem is the difference in free speech and hate speech is who is saying it and who is receiving it and which side your on. Time and place is the real factor. On here its not allowed. Ill admit i was one of those that got my hand slapped. Matter of fact more then once. But I sure couldnt argue it. Its not my house. I have to abide by the rules. As i would in your house but bottom line is swearing or foul language is not against the law and what is vulgar to one person might not be to another. So in public you have no more right to tell me how to talk then i do you. That is freedom of speech. If i come up on some women in walmart cussing up a storm I have a choice. LEAVE. Being told how i must talk is the description of socialism.