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    458 Socom question

    Has anyone tried Lyman 457658 Single Cavity Bullet Mold in 458 socom? If so, what kind of load?

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    You did not say what rifle but the most common is the AR-15 platform. If so, that bullet will not work according to my calculations. The maximum cartridge length to fit in a AR-15 magazine is 2.260". The bullet you suggested is 1.407" long. From the base to the leading edge is .500" or .907" of bullet protruding out of the case. ( 1.407 - .500 = .907" )
    The length of .458 SOCOM brass is 1.575". Add the protruding bullet length of .907" and you get 2,482"OAL which will not go into a AR-15 magazine. Double check me but I think I am correct.
    The 458 SOCOM is not a SAAMI cartridge so all loading data that I have found is second hand and unpublished internet data. I have it in a spread sheet if you want a copy PM me. The most popular powders are WW296, Re 7, and IMR 4198. I don't like WW296 in this application as it is a dual based powder. Most data I have found is for jacketed bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv109323 View Post
    You did not say what rifle but the most common is the AR-15 platform. If so, that bullet will not work according to my calculations. The maximum cartridge length to fit in a AR-15 magazine is 2.260". The bullet you suggested is 1.407" long. From the base to the leading edge is .500" or .907" of bullet protruding out of the case. ( 1.407 - .500 = .907" )
    The length of .458 SOCOM brass is 1.575". Add the protruding bullet length of .907" and you get 2,482"OAL which will not go into a AR-15 magazine. Double check me but I think I am correct.
    The 458 SOCOM is not a SAAMI cartridge so all loading data that I have found is second hand and unpublished internet data. I have it in a spread sheet if you want a copy PM me. The most popular powders are WW296, Re 7, and IMR 4198. I don't like WW296 in this application as it is a dual based powder. Most data I have found is for jacketed bullets.
    W296 and Reloder 7 are both double based powders, 4198 ,both flavors, are single base.
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    I did not realize Re 7 was a double base powder. I have never used it. I do not like WW296 due to the recommendation of not reducing powder weight in pistol cartridges. Thanks for pointing that out.

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