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    Lube sizer heating base

    How hot is it suppose to get?????
    I have one and it just doesn't seem to do anything.
    I end up heating with a heat gun.

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    Lubes melt at different temperatures. 115 to 240. The harder lubes will need to be heated longer.

    What Make , model heater do you have?

    I use an old heating pad on a Lyman 450 lube , sizer. Works ok for 50/50 lube that melts at 115 in winter.

    Takes about 1 hour to fully heat the Lyman 450. The temperature gauge reads 120 degrees F.
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    Way back when I used my Magma heater I just kept increasing the temperature till the lube flowed. I never found a lube the Magma heater would not heat enough to flow.
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    I think it's a Lyman heater.
    It's a lyman lube sizer.
    If it's suppose to get up to over 100, something is wrong with mine.
    It never get hot enough where I can't touch it.
    When I cast, I do it for hours at a time.

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    I've got an old one from when Midway sold them under their label.
    It took a little while before I discovered it, but there is a small adjustment screw on the rear of it.
    Yours may have one too.
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    Bullet lube melting temperatures.

    The heater is not going to get hotter then 115 degrees F? If it did, the soft lube would flow out?

    I dont need any extra heat when air temperature in the basement is above 70 F. But i use soft lube, 50/50.

    May take 1 hour to get the temperature up. My heating pad does.

    What lube are you using? Bought lube or home made?
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    Bullet Lube Melting Points
    Product # Bullet Lubes Temperature
    272327 Thompson Red Angel Bullet Lube Hollow 240 degrees
    526800 Rooster Red Zambini Bullet Lube Hollow 220 degrees
    149803 Rooster Red Zambini Bullet Lube Solid 220 degrees
    503552 Rooster Red High-Velocity Rifle Bullet Lube Hollow 200 degrees
    653882 Javelina Alox Bullet Lube Hollow 190 degrees
    637649 Lyman Black Powder Gold Lube 150 degrees
    461543 Lyman Super Moly Lube 150 degrees
    521810 Lyman Orange Magic Hollow 150 degrees
    341106 Lyman Ideal Bullet Lubricant Hollow 141 degrees
    309145 Saeco Green Bullet Lube Hollow 140 degrees
    120084 Saeco Gold Bullet Lube Hollow 140 degrees
    542859 SPG Bullet Lube 140 degrees
    178480 Thompson Bear Lube Heat Hollow 135 degrees
    785628 Lyman Alox Bullet Lube Hollow 130 degrees
    352552 Thompson Bear Lube Cold Hollow 125 degrees
    254626 Thompson Blue Angel Bullet Lube Solid 125-140 degrees
    667050 Thompson Blue Angel Bullet Lube Hollow 125-140 degrees
    670747 RCBS Pistol Bullet Lubricant Hollow 115 degrees
    267941 RCBS Rifle Bullet Lubricant Hollow 115 degrees
    632694 Lee Alox Bullet Lube Stick Hollow Room temperature needs no heater

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    You think it is a Lyman heater? How long have you had it? Is it a used piece of equipment? Cold temp is not a thing where you are. What lube are you trying to get to flow? Are the dies compatible? Hot to the touch is not a correct temp. Could you add a picture? There is very little to fail in a base heater. Elements are cheap and easily swapped out. Usually a Lyman heater needs to be run through a dimmer switch to throttle it down some. The old Lyman press can be adapted to accept the newer style Lyman press heater. Since you cast in quantity, a permanent solution would be in your best interest. I'm no boolit master but been using a Lyman press for over fifty years and am sure there is a way to fix your problem. Click image for larger version. 

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    I have an 1/4" aluminum strip that goes under my Lyman 450 and sticks out long enough to set a yard sale iron on. Yes it takes an hour to warm up , but it works. My basement workshop has no regular heat, save a water heater, and is normally around 45° in winter.

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    I take a piece of scrap aluminum plate bore a hole in it that fits a soldering iron tip and bolt to the bench with a piece of leather under it. Control the temp with a light dimmer switch.

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    Also a heat conducting gel can help. Think the goo on a computer heat sink.
    I think it was on LASC I saw that Desitin baby butt cream works as a heat transfer.
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    I took the lube sizer off and it's stamped Lyman, so I guess it's a Lyman.
    Plugged it in and checked it from time to time.
    Left it for two hours and all I got was 93'. Outside temp was 74'.
    No other holes on it to be found.
    The bottom has a cork insulation, so no heat loss through it.
    Anyone know what's under the cork bottom?????
    While waiting for the darn thing to get hot, I was trying to do some cleaning.
    I found this.
    A strip heater for bending plexiglass.
    Has anyone worked with one of these?????
    Wrap it around the lube sizer.
    I was thinking, maybe, hopefully, the temp could be controlled by a ceiling fan speed control.
    Maybe a light dimmer, but I think it's not enough, and might burn out.
    Doesn't say how many amps this pulls, but I'm thinking it's going to be high.
    If not the heat gun works fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abunaitoo View Post
    I think it's a Lyman heater.
    It's a lyman lube sizer.
    If it's suppose to get up to over 100, something is wrong with mine.
    It never get hot enough where I can't touch it.
    When I cast, I do it for hours at a time.
    100 degrees F is within a couple of degrees of your body temperature, it needs to hit about 105 to feel a little warm. 121 degrees F is uncomfortably warm, but you can hold on to it for a while. Look for an adjusting screw, and get a non-contact thermometer.

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    Lube sizer heating base

    Quote Originally Posted by abunaitoo View Post
    ...Doesn't say how many amps this pulls, but I'm thinking it's going to be high.
    If not the heat gun works fine.
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    85 watts per the Amazon details...so not even an amp.

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    There is nothing under the cork.

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    I am using a non contact thermo.
    Where is this screw everyones talking about?????
    I looked for it, and nothing.
    Could it be under the cork????

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    With my first RCBS lube sizer I used a metal base and small clothes iron under it. The iron has an adjustable setting that I set on max to start with then lower the setting when the sizer is warm to the touch. I got the iron for around $5 at a second hand store about 10 years ago. This has never failed to work perfectly. I now have three sizers with different lubes and those have their own heaters. The cork works great if mounted to a metal or slick surfaced bench top.

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    I just bought one of the newish RCBS heaters with the rheostat knob. I promptly turned it up halfway and found it works like it's supposed to. Poured warm lube all over the place. I then did something you're not supposed to do and looked at the directions (who reads those things anyway) at it mentions something silly about start low and add heat if needed for flow. At least Carnuba Blue is a real pretty color when it's melted.

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    Any way to fix this thing????
    Can't see any way to take it apart.
    Last edited by abunaitoo; 12-29-2020 at 06:31 AM.

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    II believe the Lyman plate heater is just a plate of Al with a hole drilled for a cartridge/prob heater epoxied into it, not serviceable, No adjustment just plug n play. May have to give it last rights and get a new one or do as some posted above with an old iron.
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