Who is buying up all the ammo????

[dtknowles]

The word "panic" gets tossed around much too freely; the better word choice is "frantic". People really don't panic about toilet paper or guns/ammo but those of us prone to fear easily get frantic and that sparks buying sprees.

We know firearms have only two natural enemies; rust and Democrats. Rust we can control but protecting free people from Democrats determined to "change and control us for our own good" are implacable enemies and are virtually impossible for a free people to live with.

Years ago, rampant Democrats were ramping up the rioting in many cities (mostly across the violent northern tier) and we, the people, started buying firearms like never before to protect ourselves from those raging Democrat mobs. And those millions of new buyers immediately bought a lot of ammo.

Same time, many law agencies bought a lot of popular cartridges to bring their own people up to higher standards. Same time, we we millions who are often our own worst friends did too. Those of us prone to frantic buying started stuffing closet shelves with virtually anything within reach. Try as they might, our ammo makers simply can't keep up with such surges. These wild buying peaks indeed swing on 4 or 8 year cycles, i.e., our major election cycles come with normal threats of ever more illiberal elitist goals of new laws crushing the personal freedoms of "those deplorable little people", they being us!

Last year, when it began to look like another wave of Dem vote thefts might actually beat us this time, concerned buyers followed their usual buying paths. Now that our worst fears have proven true, the current legal gun/ammo buying wave has not crested.
This time, America's internal political enemies aren't even trying to hide their plans so our long simmering fears of unbounded government tyranny is now boiling over, directly in front of us beginning Jan. 21, 2021.

There is still a slim chance that the cheats were so brazen and clumsy that they might have their victory over us snatched away from their claws. God help us. And, if that happens, the frantic buying surge will likely be over by Mother's Day.

What is a "vote theft?"

Tim

[la5676]

I'm planning on all my stuff being in the boat for my Viking funeral.

[redhawk0]

When the scamdemic is over....ammo availability will bounce back. But don't expect it for at least a year. It will take businesses (that can bounce back) that long to rehire/retrain employees to make a supply again.

redhawk

[Handloader109]

https://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/
Has a bunch of 9mm IF you really want some....
Just sayin

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[BigboreShooter]

People actually buy ammo? Who would’a thunk!
BigboreShooter

[Shawlerbrook]

Ammo I understand, but I find it hard to believe that first time gun owners are buying reloading equipment and components. I do believe that manufacturers are diverting components to manufacturing loaded ammo. I do believe that Covid shutdowns and raw material shortages have also something to do with it. I can’t believe that anyone that has been shooting and reloading for 10, 20+ years was not prepared for this.

[Edward]

I'd lay odds that a lot if not most of the new gun owners are these young folks who decided to jump onboard the wagon last minute due to the riots. As soon as the new wears off they won't be buying ammo and/or components any more. What they have will probably sit on the shelves in their homes and not be used up. Then things will start to get back to some facsimile of normal. Will prices come all the way back down, maybe not but better than now anyway.

I think you better rethink ,this shortage is nothing like any you have ever seen ! And if the Georgia vote goes to democraps your ammo needs won"t matter as biden/harris want everything you have that goes bang (registered that is) and that is a for real fact ! Just because you"ve been around a while and think back to normal is coming remember this. When in your wildest dreams did you think our country would go commy/socialist ,cause thats where the democraps are going and with 3 branches there will only be one party and it will be the one in the past we went to war over ! Think China/Germany/Japan /Korea /and all had one thing in common ,no guns for the people and again biden/harris agree ,nuff said/Ed

[Blanket]

to late mine all went down in the storm

[Blanket]

I think you better rethink ,this shortage is nothing like any you have ever seen ! And if the Georgia vote goes to democraps your ammo needs won"t matter as biden/harris want everything you have that goes bang (registered that is) and that is a for real fact ! Just because you"ve been around a while and think back to normal is coming remember this. When in your wildest dreams did you think our country would go commy/socialist ,cause thats where the democraps are going and with 3 branches there will only be one party and it will be the one in the past we went to war over ! Think China/Germany/Japan /Korea /and all had one thing in common ,no guns for the people and again biden/harris agree ,nuff said/Ed

makes me think of all the buried hidden guns and ammo in a country the size of New England 50 odd years ago

[Gavetta]

why are we having all this divisive political messaging.

[Edward]

Cause it"s needed for the few delusinal folks that don"t think!/Ed

[Blanket]

why are we having all this divisive political messaging.

laughing

[Thunder Stick]

In my area of California, I see people hoarding ammo. They buy it like it’s toilet paper at Costco. Seem okay to me. Some people are flippers. People who buy it up and resell it to make a profit. Nothing wrong with those things. It’s just what I see.

My LGS had 300 large pistol primers one morning. I bought 200 and left 100 for someone else. I wished I could have bought a case. But I try to think of the other guy. The salesman looked at me like I was crazy to not snatch them all up. But that’s not how I roll.

[GhostHawk]

Well I have been helping out a young friend of mine when I can. He has been both working a 40 hour week and going to college full time. Recently had a chance to change jobs, making much better money now, and has been buying guns.

2 handguns, a 9mm and a .380. He had "some" 9mm on hand but the .380 was new to him, so caught flat footed.
He also bought a Steyr Aug, so I let him "borrow" 40 rounds so he can at least have a couple mags for home defense.
And he bought a very nice looking Finnish Mosin, so again I set him up with enough ammo so he could deer hunt with it if he wanted to.

I fully expect in time for him to repay what he borrowed, with interest.

He's a good kid, ex marine chopper mechanic. Working security at a local state tech school.

40 rounds of either of those calibers is not a drop in the bucket of what I have stashed.
Given time I know he will be will stocked for the future, he is one of few of that age group I have met who has a solid grasp of reality and what might be needed to deal with what could happen.

[GregLaROCHE]

I hope to never need to buy factory ammo again! Ok, maybe 22lrs.

[CarlMc]

It wasn't that long ago when I was derided for loading 9MM when it could be bought for dirt cheap. Not worth the hassle they said. That guy. That guy's buying all the ammo he can, and now he's buying reloading gear as well. As a primary reloader, I'm investigating casting, and now those items are getting scarce as well.

[fcvan]

Some years back, a lot of ladies I worked with bought various pistols in .380 ACP. None of them could find ammo to save their hides. Being a reloader, I told them I couldn't sell ammo, but a Bacon Western Cheeseburger and Fries was good for 2 boxes. I was told '1 box, 1 CB w/fries.' Don't argue with your co-workers.

I PC everything, and told them their choices were MIB, or 'Munitions in Black,' Barbie Pink 'because a girl has to accessorize,' Barney Purple, with a picture of Barney the purple dinosaur, and Neon Lime Green, or Zombie Boolits 'Got Zombies? Try Zom-B-Gone, use as directed,' and boxes labeled as described. I made a lot of 'Barbie Boolits.' Brass was cheap, lead was cheap, loading for my friends in that capacity was fun, nobody went without. The .380 loads I used were the same as I had since the mid 1980s, various pistols, no failures. If it isn't broke . . .

I've retired so my friends can't go to the LT for ammo like they used to. I worked a ton of Overtime so I was buying 5k of primers a month, SM P&R, LG P&R, 8lb jugs of powder whenever the last jug was about 1/2 empty. Not hurting, and haven't bought in 5 years. I rode out the last stupid crisis by waiting, when things cooled off, I probably loaded . . . I'd rather not say totals. Let's just say 3 households are well stocked. Heck, I've got 3k of 40 S&W that is lubed from the days before ASBBPC, something like 10 years ago.

I look forward to things cooling off and returning to somewhat normal. I make a final mortgage payment first of the month on one of my 3 properties, 2 of which are paid for. My fixed income will go further for sure, I'll probably start shooting more as the grand kids get older, already have a wife and kids who are shooters.

[TonyR]

the new gun owners are.

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[shdwlkr]

New government they need to deal with the riots in DC, oh and DOD is asking for the ammo they ordered two years ago as it is now time to deliver.