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    Old/antique H&R revolvers

    I'm debating on picking up these 2 little pocket pistols, ones a 38 the other is a 32. How difficult would it be to reload for these? I assume both are black powder only.

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    I load some FF holy black in loads for .45-70.
    Rather than use a powder measure/hopper like I do smokeless,
    I weighed the right charge, then made and use a volume measure to fit the powder weight like those Lee dipper things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger Ed. View Post
    I load some FF holy black in loads for .45-70.
    Rather than use a powder measure/hopper like I do smokeless,
    I weighed the right charge, then made and use a volume measure to fit the powder weight like those Lee dipper things.
    Kinda like what my friend made me for adding cornmeal to my 44cal. It was made out of a cut down 9mm shell.

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    I like these things, everything from Merwins to topbreaks, 32SW and 38SW. I use FFF black and soft lead bullets, no fillers.They work quite well for what they they were designed for, close range personal protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leadeye View Post
    I like these things, everything from Merwins to topbreaks, 32SW and 38SW. I use FFF black and soft lead bullets, no fillers.They work quite well for what they they were designed for, close range personal protection.
    I haven't decided yet but I would have to go over the border for the holy black and find dies, I assume that the 38/357 dies work for 38 s&w, but the 32 looks harder to find. I can get both pistols for 50 bucks and the gunsmith says they look good for shooting.

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    38/357 dies won't load 38s&w. Their diameters are different. 38/357 dies size the case down too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 35isit View Post
    38/357 dies won't load 38s&w. Their diameters are different. 38/357 dies size the case down too far.
    Good to know.

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    Dang....somebody needs to keep their tools in a humidity controlled environment!

    They are easy to reload for and I predict you will find t rewarding. It is not unheard of to use very mild smokeless powder loads given appropriate loadings

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    32 can be loaded with 32 acp/32 SW long dies.
    38 SW are there own dies...maybe get 9mm Makarov to work.

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    I once had a very large collection of these revolvers, & kept about half of the nicest when I held a big sell off over the last year... all of mine were shooters...

    if your revolvers time out OK, they are shootable with Trailboss... my starting loads for 32 S&W only used 0.5 grains with no fillers needed, & I went up from there with 3 load levels... if your barrels are highly pitted, I either recommend not shooting them, of it you fell you must ( I always did ) I had a load that I crimped a soft 32 caliber lead round ball into the case

    some of my collection even gets a couple mild self defense loads occasionally



    At one time I had more than 30 of these revolvers in 32 & 38 S&W... pictured in this post are a couple I've kept... I really like the 32 & 38 Hand eject models quite rare & more positive ejecting








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    Quote Originally Posted by 35remington View Post
    Dang....somebody needs to keep their tools in a humidity controlled environment!

    They are easy to reload for and I predict you will find t rewarding. It is not unheard of to use very mild smokeless powder loads given appropriate loadings
    That was a set he dug out of somewhere cause we needed a tiny bit for something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnum Wheel Man View Post
    I once had a very large collection of these revolvers, & kept about half of the nicest when I held a big sell off over the last year... all of mine were shooters...

    if your revolvers time out OK, they are shootable with Trailboss... my starting loads for 32 S&W only used 0.5 grains with no fillers needed, & I went up from there with 3 load levels... if your barrels are highly pitted, I either recommend not shooting them, of it you fell you must ( I always did ) I had a load that I crimped a soft 32 caliber lead round ball into the case

    some of my collection even gets a couple mild self defense loads occasionally



    At one time I had more than 30 of these revolvers in 32 & 38 S&W... pictured in this post are a couple I've kept... I really like the 32 & 38 Hand eject models quite rare & more positive ejecting







    Timing on both is good and the bores are too. Cylinder lock up is tight and the 32 top break doesn't have any play in the frame.

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    it's been a while since I loaded... let me look at my recipes... 0.5 grains sounds like a very tiny amount, but Trailbosse's lil donuts are bulky any the 32 S&W case pretty tiny, but it worked well as my test load... thinking my mid level load was maybe 1.5 grains, but I'll need to check to confirm... when I got into stronger guns I had a 3rd hotter load

    32 & 38 S&W are very easy to load... 38 S&W I was able to load with lighter weight larger diameter cast 38 special bullets with acceptable accuracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnum Wheel Man View Post
    I once had a very large collection of these revolvers, & kept about half of the nicest when I held a big sell off over the last year... all of mine were shooters...

    if your revolvers time out OK, they are shootable with Trailboss... my starting loads for 32 S&W only used 0.5 grains with no fillers needed, & I went up from there with 3 load levels... if your barrels are highly pitted, I either recommend not shooting them, of it you fell you must ( I always did ) I had a load that I crimped a soft 32 caliber lead round ball into the case

    some of my collection even gets a couple mild self defense loads occasionally



    At one time I had more than 30 of these revolvers in 32 & 38 S&W... pictured in this post are a couple I've kept... I really like the 32 & 38 Hand eject models quite rare & more positive ejecting







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    Do you plan to cast for these or buy boolits?

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    I've loaded a few 32 S&Ws ....where, with any powder, does one find room for a filler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    I've loaded a few 32 S&Ws ....where, with any powder, does one find room for a filler
    No filler, ever...

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    I don't know about the quality of antique H & R revolvers but I have 5 antique S & W top break revolvers, 32 S & W, 38 S & W and 44-40 calibers and I load them with smokeless powder at black powder pressures and shoot them without concern. I have a Merwin Hulbert double action in 38 that I use the same ammo in.

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    Would black powder substitutes work is these old low pressure guns . I don't use subs or even have gun like that but am just curious
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    Quote Originally Posted by RU shooter View Post
    Would black powder substitutes work is these old low pressure guns . I don't use subs or even have gun like that but am just curious
    They should - just be sure to use loose powder, not pellets.

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