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    Want a 30/223

    I have a yearning for a 30/223 and will use my Savage 110 223 as the action. I already have a rimmed version of the 300 BO based on a Martini action and use 357 mag shells. I purchased a 300 BO reamer some time back and to my mind it should be possible to run this reamer into the barrel an extra 10mm and end up with my version of the wanted cartridge, and load with my 300 BO dies. I intend to use one of the 1/14'' twist barrels I have. Can anyone tell me why this will or will not work. Regards Stephen

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    Don't see why it wouldn't work. You might have to get something like an old 223 die and cut off the top, leaving the base section to size the base of the brass when it expands after repeated firings. That might not happen for quite a few rounds. Or you could just rent a 30 Apache reamer if available down under, but I think your 300 BO reamer would work just fine.

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    I always had a liking for the 30 Apache (30/223) with a 1:10 twist for driving heavy boolits. Then I was given a M0d 70 in 7.62x39 with a 1:10 twist barrel.

    Loaded with a powder coated 190gn 0.314" boolit and 23.5gn 3031 it is proving more versitile than a wildcat. Good accuracy and velocity just over 2000fps.

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    That’s ******, Wallace!

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    I have a 30/223 with a 17 1/2 inch barrel and 10 /1/2 inch twist. built on the Savage Axis loves the Lee 230gr

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    Want a 30/223

    How close is that to the .350 Legend? Curious.
    Last edited by dangitgriff; 12-13-2020 at 05:43 PM.

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    the only 223 conversion that uses a 223 shell that seems interesting to me anyway is the HAM'R- I never would have built a blackout if the HAM'R had been developed at that time.

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    Pt&g has reamer

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    I have thought about getting a 30 Apache but then I already have a 527 Mini Mauser in 7.62X39 and three different 300 Blackouts so, it seems a bit redundant. Gp

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    There is the 7.62x40WT also. I have an AR in that caliber.

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    It sounds like a great idea for a fun rifle to me. The slower twist should get better results with lighter cast bullets than the normal fast twist of the BO. What diameter and length are you leaning towards for the finished rifle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangitgriff View Post
    How close is that to the .350 Legend? Curious.
    I don't think there would be much difference as I have a 357 Maximum on a Martini action and it gets up there with the 30/30 and that is not much different to the 350 Legend which I think is another fine cartridge. Regards Stephen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad *** Wallace View Post
    I always had a liking for the 30 Apache (30/223) with a 1:10 twist for driving heavy boolits. Then I was given a M0d 70 in 7.62x39 with a 1:10 twist barrel.

    Loaded with a powder coated 190gn 0.314" boolit and 23.5gn 3031 it is proving more versitile than a wildcat. Good accuracy and velocity just over 2000fps.

    That's stepping righ along with that heavy bullet !
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkrcpa View Post
    There is the 7.62x40WT also. I have an AR in that caliber.
    I like the WT idea its more idiot proof than the BO.
    Are you happy with the rifle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    It sounds like a great idea for a fun rifle to me. The slower twist should get better results with lighter cast bullets than the normal fast twist of the BO. What diameter and length are you leaning towards for the finished rifle?
    I have the option of a 24'' barrel but not sure that length is necessary to gain full velocity if needed. I was also thinking of that twist in a 308 or 30/6 at a late date as I have 26'' barrels for those also with a 1/14'' twist, as I agree they will handle cast much better. Regards Stephen

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    I also want to deep chamber a 300 blackout and try out 30 apache. I was kicking around the idea of doing it to a ruger american and putting it in a chassis that would use the aics pattern mags to get the extra mag length needed. But truthfully I'd rather have a 1 in 10 twist barrel than the 1 in 8 the blackout barrels have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plate plinker View Post
    I like the WT idea its more idiot proof than the BO.
    Are you happy with the rifle?
    It was a ground up hunting build just for deer and maybe hogs. I haven't gotten a lot of trigger time but it gets good performance out of a .30 bullet at moderate ranges. It's easy to load for and brass is plentiful.

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    why not a 30 carbine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpidaho View Post
    I have thought about getting a 30 Apache but then I already have a 527 Mini Mauser in 7.62X39 and three different 300 Blackouts so, it seems a bit redundant. Gp
    I would go with the 527 in 7.62x39. Nice trim rifle. Not the cheap brass of a 5.56 based round, but I can buy a lot of brass for $200. How does yours do with cast?
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